Comments on: John Lucas: “There’s never been a better player fundamentally than Kobe”

By: Andre Mumford

Andre Mumford — Tue, 26 May 2009 15:45:43 +0000

Stop comparing let MJ be himself and let KB be himself Kobe will play at least another five years. MJ sat out a year and came back and three peated again. What dont u people understand KOBE is not in the first 50. I agree he is in the next 50. Jordan had no center he molded Scottie Pippen into a great player did KOBe H NO!!

By: Andre Mumford

Andre Mumford — Tue, 26 May 2009 15:39:23 +0000

Joradn is the best point blank he made his players aroung him sooooo much better !!!

By: satch

satch — Mon, 25 May 2009 20:59:22 +0000

ZAC ,MIKE AND SCOTTIE RESTED 4 OUT OF EVERY 4 GAMES THEY PLAYED ON DEFENSE.WHERE WOULD THOSE KNICK,PACER,CAVS TEAMS BEEN AT IN 1980? WATCHING AT HOME IF YOU THINK ANY NBA TEAMS IN THE 90,S WERE AMONG THE TOP TEAMS OF ALL TIMES YOU ARE YOUNG AND CRAZY.ALSO YOU GOT TO REMEMBER YOU HAD TO GUARD SOMEBODY EVERY NIGHT IN THOSE DAYS.HOW FOLKS IN THE NBA PLAYING BIG GUARD/ SMALL FOWARD CANNOT HIT A 15 FT JUMPER OR POSSESS SERIOUS ONE ON ONE SKILLS, 90% OF THE STARTERS IN THE NBA.EVERYBODY I NAMED WAS A BONAFIDE SCORER WHO DID NOT MISS OPEN JUMPERS.MIKE AND SCOTTIE WOULD HAD TO GUARD SOME ONE EVERY FREAKING NIGHT AND THAT IS SOMETHING THEY NEVER HAD TO DO.THE MARJORITY OF THE BUMS IN THE 90,S WERE SCARED OF MIKE JORDAN.WORRIED ABOUT BEING ON A POSTER AND RUNNING OUT OF HIS WAY,EFFING LAME AZZ BULL

By: Jizzay

Jizzay — Mon, 25 May 2009 18:09:54 +0000

The only thing Kobe has left to learn is how to be a good team leader. The spike lee doc was funny, because you could actually see surprise register in other player’s eyes. “He remembered my name.” You can tell Kobe saying hello is reserved for special occasions like christmas. Meanwhile, in th pit that is cleveland, cavs players are absolutely in love with Lebron. I wonder why. Maybe because Lebron has teammates instead of co-workers

By: zac

zac — Mon, 25 May 2009 02:34:13 +0000

here is my problem with all these arguments. did the suns make the playoffs this year? think not and you bring up amare and nash. have they even reached the finals…no. you say wade(who by the way is my favorite player) he would be lucky to avg.60 games a season in jordans era because they would have put him on his back for even attempting to come in the lane at 6′4″. you bring up nowitski who won mvp an choked in the biggest games of his life in the finals. you have kirelinko who is good but that in my opinion no differen in comparsion to a james worthy, dennis rodman, or jerome kersey who had more size and bulk then kirlenko and were always in uniform an not hurt every single week. who else did you say…oh you have rashard lewis , which just destorys you are argument for a guy who shoots pretty close to 30% of his shots behind the 3 point line and hates contact. then you say vince ( who plays when he wants to and is the modern day nique as in good but not great, davis, paul , d will , no disrespect but neither even with the size are better then isiah thomas was in his prime and jordan played them every year. your argument has holes beause not one player you mentioned has a ring except wade and ginoboli. i dont care what you say, kg is getting bullied in this era because who is he guarding, barkley would have made him look stupid and he couldnt guard any center…still doesnt to that point, freaking jermaine oneal couldnt even get playin time and he was behind an old pippen in portland. my argument wasn’t to diss the new school but to simply say competition was rougher, defenses were tougher, people had more pride in the game and it showed in their play. give me a modern day team aside from the aging spurs that even gives you the same mindset as the 90s bulls/or even bad boy pistons, you could have said the lakers but kobe didn’t want that he wanted his own team. read them off, bulls, the pistons, the lakers, the rockets, even the jazz , even portland. not one team now in the nba as its stands is challenging anyone from jordans era that i just mentioned, and you can’t tell me otherwise, if you try your crazy. every team was physical, no announcer is even going to say that this team was built blahh blah blah. look at kobe he didn’t even want what jordan had of 6 titles with shaq, he had to do it himself. tracy said bump it let me leave and do it without vince and his team got out of the first round without him!!!!!, marbury forget a legacy with kg. the nba now is a bunch of one on ones so all you have to do is beat the best player on the other team because guess what, i m not sure lamar wants to show up and give it his all, or i m sorry rasheed isnt in a good mood, or my bad howard is out smoking weed, or even nash , amare , shaq don’t want to play defense so lets fire the coach, who has 2 rings of his own compared to only shaq having 4 out of all three players. the league now is entertainment it doesn’t hold a match to the fire games were back in the day. bulls/knicks, bulls/cavs, bulls/ pacers. everyone looks an says they are quicker they are faster they are stronger, guess what though. bird was the slowest dude in the world and was great, rodman was 6′8 leading the league in rebounding and probably would still hold his own now, barkley was a brute force. you had players that would still do damage now kj,joe dumars, worthy,mchale,mark price.watch some tapes people, don’t be deillusioned by the moves, see team work, the schemes, the matchups. the nba now is about 7 legit teams man.

By: basketboule

basketboule — Sun, 24 May 2009 23:04:24 +0000

i don’t think anyone could ever be able tell. people tend to take away from kobe’s 3 championships because of how dominant shaq was, but in fact, kobe was usually the closer in those years (and for good reason). he was a key player, there’s no championship in those years without kobe bryant.

and vice versa, jordan himself was the closer on incredibly strong bulls TEAMS (especially defensively their strength was crazy) and people tend to take away from pippen’s influence on those championships. dude was 2nd in MVP voting while jordan played baseball. sure, jordan was good, possibly the best ever, BUT you can’t be so sure and never will be because this kobe bryant guy is freaking amazing and damn close, as close as anyone has ever been. just open your eyes…

where is lebron in this conversation? on his way, he’s a beast but still has some intangibles to pick up and some little things to learn. i don’t think there’s too much you could teach kobe bryant these days. i couldn’t come up with anything. but this is interesting actually, who from the hater-corner knows something?

By: chanman

chanman — Sun, 24 May 2009 22:54:12 +0000

Zac here u go again……who did Jordan guard at the SG positions? u answered your own question, NOBODY!! on the other hand who does Kobe Bryant have to guard? from J Kidd, Steve nash, t mac, vince carter, D wade, AI in his PRIME. TO lebron, melo, who’s got all kinds of size over him and still do a great job. and u argue jordan’s era is the best? look at the league in the past 10 yrs…..KG, Duncan, Shaq, Dwight Howard, at the centers…PF’s Nowitski, J oneal when he was healthy, amare. SF’s lebron, melo, kirilenko, Rashard lewis, turkoglu. SG’s kobe, t mac, vince, wade, AI, ginobili. PG’s Nash, Kidd, Paul, D Will, Baron Davis…..ALLL great players AND did Jordan have 6′9 6′10 guys guarding him? didnt think so, so kobe has to face that every game and STILL put up good numbers

By: zac

zac — Sun, 24 May 2009 19:21:22 +0000

no offense but thompson, wilkes, tripuka , richardson, are not being mentioned before a pippen or barkely, its that simple they aren’t even on the top 50 list. you can not name 4 centers from the 80s before you have to mention hakeem, david, ewing . for forwards i m going malone, bird barkley,mchale, barry was done by 1980. guards jordan and that is the only weak category. point stockon, isiah, johnson. They are all jordans era and they are considered the best. you could argue for nate, but aside from that the names you are mentioning are like someone mentioning reggie miller or even dominque which i mentioned, they are good but not upper tier. i ll even take back pippen, but it was probably one of the most balanced eras at each position ever. you had 4 to 5 hall of fame centers. 4 guards and 4 forwards. your list is really the 70s not 80s which i agree with you some on, it just very hard to compare. Jordan again was the best when he left both times , and he was probably still top 20 when he played wit the Wizards.

By: justin

justin — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:59:23 +0000

Jordan got every call - and I mean every call. Kobe gets screwed all the time. And if anyone wants to start about that Kings game back in the days I challenge you to watch that WHOLE series (especially the final minute from the game before) and tell me that the Kings weren’t getting the better calls.

If the game was on the line I’d take Jordan shoving Reggie Miller and watching the refs sit there with their thumbs up their ….

Jordan was a more fluid basketball player but Kobe is more fundamental. Why is that so hard to understand? Nobody’s “hating” on anybody and it’s completely dumb to infere that from these comments.

By: Don Sellers

Don Sellers — Sun, 24 May 2009 16:07:53 +0000

J Luc

Great job. You should know you do a good job of teaching the same. Hey, “Black Mike” is a very close call though.