Martin-Cuban feud continues
There’s a new Cuban Missile Crisis. It has to do with the shots that continue to be launched between Dallas owner Mark Cuban and Denver forward Kenyon Martin.
A movie was made on the 1962 crisis called “Thirteen Days.’’ The way this one is going, it might last a lot longer.
“He’s a coward,’’ Martin said Saturday about Cuban, a week after Cuban made an unflattering comment to Martin’s mother during a West semifinal series, with Martin believing Cuban has yet to apologize in an appropriate manner.
Meanwhile, Cuban admits he “made a mistake’’ in having apologized to Martin’s mother on his blog and not having yet done so personally in a timely fashion. But Cuban, in an e-mail to HoopsHype.com, wrote he wants Martin to take responsibility for his actions, which he wrote included calling a wife of a Mavericks staff member a “(expletive) fat pig’’ and making an obscene gesture.
It all heated up May 9 after Game 3. After the Nuggets won a controversial game in Dallas, when the NBA later admitted a foul should have been called on Mavericks guard Antoine Wright and a game-winning three-pointer from Denver forward Carmelo Anthony wiped out, Cuban was incensed. He passed by Martin’s mother, Lydia Moore, and has admitted saying “that includes your son’’ when a fan called Nuggets players thugs.
Martin had been fined $25,000 by the NBA and assessed a flagrant foul 1 for a Game 1 incident in which he knocked Mavericks star forward Dirk Nowitzki hard to the floor.
Following last Monday’s Game 4 in Dallas, the Mavericks’ only win in a 4-1 series loss, it has been reported Martin launched profanity in the direction of Cuban. Then, a few hours after that game, Cuban did get around to apologizing to Martin’s mother, doing it on his blog.
But that hasn’t sat well with Martin. Even though NBA commissioner David Stern has recommended Cuban apologize in a more direct manner, Martin said as of Saturday afternoon he knew of no additional apology having been made.
“He’s a coward,’’ Martin said about Cuban. “He couldn’t face it… You all read the only apology that he’s made (on his blog)… The world got to see it before the person who it was meant for got to see it. That tells you how that goes. I ain’t never known nobody apology to somebody through other people.’’
Martin on Saturday was asked by HoopsHype.com about his actions following Game 4. But Martin declined to discuss them.
Cuban then was asked by e-mail about Martin’s comments on Saturday about him, and was informed about Martin not wanting to comment about what happened after Game 4.
First, Cuban wrote he erred in how he has handled the apology to Moore.
“I still intend to apologize to Ms. Moore,’’ Cuban wrote. “I made a mistake and will keep my commitment.’’
Later, Cuban wrote he believes Martin needs to address his actions.
“I would also like to know if Kenyon is going to take responsibility for his actions rather than hiding behind ‘no comment,’’’ Cuban wrote. “Will he apologize to the wife of our staff member that he called a ‘(expletive) fat pig’ immediately after Game 3? Will he apologize to fans that he threatened to, and I’m paraphrasing here, ‘(expletive) beat the (expletive) down’ during Game 4?
“Or to the fans he walked by after Game 4, (Martin) cursed and gave the finger to? Will he take responsibility for what he said and did? Is there some reason he has not?’’
Martin, though, has been willing to talk about Cuban. He said Saturday that, while he’s disappointed in how Cuban’s apology was handled, he’s trying to move past that.
“I don’t care,’’ said Martin, who said he was distracted and didn’t play his best in Game 4 because he said fans at American Airlines were “bothering’’ his mother as she sat directly behind the Nuggets bench. “Me and my mom ain’t going to lose no sleep if we don’t talk to Mark Cuban. We’re going to lay our head down and sleep well every night.
“I’m still playing right now. (Cuban’s) got time to think about all that. I got games to win right now. So give (Cuban) time to think about (what he might do).’’
One thing is for sure. When the NBA schedule comes out in August, circle the games between the Nuggets and Mavericks.
The first big blow in the series came courtesy of Martin. With the Mavericks having taken a 12-9 lead midway through the first quarter in Game 1 and Nowitzki shooting 5-of-5, the burly forward plowed into Nowitzki on the baseline, sending him sprawling.
Martin was assessed a technical foul. However the following day NBA changed the call to a flagrant foul 1 and fined Martin $25,000 while rescinding the technical.
“I think it set the tone (for the series) for sure,’’ said Nuggets guard Chauncey Billups. “Nowitzki had hit four or five shots in a row earlier in that game to start off the series, and think (Martin) took it a little personally and let him know, ‘OK, this is how it’s going to be. Yeah, you probably will play good because you’re a great player. But it’s not going to be easy. This is how it’s going to be.’’’
The Nuggets showed early they would be by far the more aggressive team in the series. While those in the NBA office did not look kindly at Martin’s maneuver, there was a belief by some in the Nuggets camp it was a well-spent $25,000.
“That wasn’t what I was trying to do, but that seemed to be the attitude it took on so I had no problem with it,’’ Martin when told about Billups saying his knockdown of Nowitzki set the tone for the series. “You do what you’re supposed to do. If we keep winning the playoffs, I’ll get that money back.’’
There is a World Wrestling Entertainment event scheduled for later this month at the Pepsi Center. But watching Martin fans sometimes feel they’ve already been treated to a steel-cage match.
“I don’t back down from nobody,’’ Martin said. “There’s not a person that has laced their shoes up and stepped on this court (that Martin is) going to back down from. No matter who you are. Championships or not. MVPs or not. Sixteenth man on the team. I’m going to treat you the same way. No matter what it is. I’m going to get after you.
“You’re going to know you played against me when you get done. That’s all I strive to do. Whether you play one game against me or 20 or whatever the case might be, my name will always come up in the conversation of who’s the toughest guy you had to play against. And I want my name to be mentioned.’
It seems Martin got some of his training from Michael Jordan’s original bodyguard.
When Martin broke into the NBA in 2000, he was tough. But he was no Charles Oakley.
But Oakley, then an aging pro who had broke into the NBA in 1986 as Chicago’s head henchman during the early days of Jordan’s brilliance, was around to show the young Martin how to throw his weight around while at least sometimes staying within the rules.
“Charles Oakley, hands down,’’ Martin said about the toughest player he ever faced. “You watch what I’m doing to these young guys, that’s what Oak did to me. (Oakley showed Martin) all of that stuff, man. He told me stuff that is legal to a certain degree.’’
Martin lives on the edge. He has received his share of NBA penalties over the years, but nobody ever hears his teammates complain about him.
“His presence is always felt on the court,’’ Billups said. “It’s never what he does offensively. It’s about his presence out there, his toughness, his grit and grind. We look for that. That’s a major component of our team.’’
With Billups providing leadership and passing, Anthony scoring plenty and Martin flexing his muscles, the Nuggets have advanced to the West final for the first time since 1985.
Enjoying the ride has been Nuggets coach George Karl, who been able to channel Martin’s aggressiveness in recent years at least toward the other team. In the 2006 playoffs, Martin was suspended by the Nuggets for launching an obscenity-laced tirade at Karl over playing time.
“I think the word we’ve used here is, and we’ve added veteran to it, is a smart toughness,’’ Karl said when asked if enforcer is the right word to describe Martin. “I think he’s emotionally involved, but I think he’s smart and I think he’s veteran. I don’t think he’s afraid of pushing the line. Bruce Bowen pushed the line every playoff series I’ve ever seen him (play with San Antonio).
“(Martin) pushed the line (against Dallas). Cuban pushed the line. But it didn’t get crazy. They professionally settled down into a way that somewhere along the way it’ll get settled.’’
The way things are going, though, it could take a while for this feud to settle down.
Brad Scott Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 11:05 am
This whole situation is bad for the NBA. I am a Mavericks fan and do love Cuban (no one can deny how he has turned around the Mavs since buying the team), however this is getting way out of hand. Cuban just needs to step it up and apologize to his momma face to face. He should have never let his frustrations get the best out of him in the first place. Martin needs to focus on the next round and be done with this-I can’t help but notice though that every time he opens his mouth the things that come out do not help him defend his stance of not being a thug…listen to this “I ain’t never known nobody apology to somebody through other people.—what does this mean? I agree that if what Cuban says is true that Martin should also apologize to the Mavs wife–Hypocracy–If Martin doesn’t have the self-control to keep from saying these things-should he really be going after Cuban…seems to me he might need to look in the mirror before pointing the finger. This all comes down to two guys who have very inflated ego’s. From a distance this all looks like Stern can’t control an owner and can’t keep this situation out of the public.
Othniel Evans Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 11:42 am
Both need to be men, and do what’s right.
Cuban, needs to be less visible/distracting…he’s hurt his team one too many times, he’s like a 2 yr old who can’t get enough attention.
Kenyon, needs to quit acting…he’s one of those “fake” tough guys. Oak, Barkley and the others were the last of their kind, the current crop of players are literally actors now.
Brian Boitono Said Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 4:27 pm
I would bet if everyone really thought about it the answer is: Cuban is a loudmouth Jerk and Kenyon is a thug. They are both right. Not Sure???? they both have about 10 incidents in there respective careers to validate that statement.
bron42 Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 5:11 pm
lol giving a hard foul makes someone a thug? The way kmart talks makes hima thug? please..don’t call everyone a thug just cuz the mavs are a bunch of softies. Them and the raptors are the only teams in the leagues that don’t have “thugs” on them and they also are the softest teams…and if you all want kmart to apologize, then make every single fan that was yellin at him and cursin apologize too.Cuz unlike cuban its not like martin just randomly went after one person. He yelled back at fans that were yellin at him. The dallas fans feed off cuban, and he acts like hes at a hockey game with all his moaning and complaing and then runs home to type about it online. Like he said, who apologizes online? he should go and apologize the same way he made the first comment, face to face. People are so gay these days, its just like the kid’s dad at the magics game askin for an apology and callin big baby a crazed animal…um no…just tell your stupid son to get off the court.
Jaredallas Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 7:34 pm
Brian Boitono is right. And, I’m not just saying that because it’s an extremely rare opportunity.
seriously though, i love marc cuban, but this is the kind of incident he attracts. on the other hand, i was at the lucky 7 club after game 4 when kenyon started flipping people off and shouting some inappropriate crap. and me and the other people around had nothing to do with his little issue, we weren’t even taunting him, just looking.
at least when cuban popped off at K-Mart’s mom it’s because she was interfering in a quarrel among men.
Brian Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 11:01 pm
Does anyone here know the difference between the words “apology” and “apologize”? Christ Tomasson doesn’t.
brandon Said,
May 17, 2009 @ 11:33 pm
just wanted to say, I was at both games 3 and 4 and the nuggets fans/wives/girlfriends/mothers…were asking for this. Please do not think I am trying to defend the Dallas fans cause they were just as ridiculous, but the Nuggets people were all sitting in groups throughout the lower bowl…they were being obnoxious, standing up, turning around and sort of rubbing it in to the people behind them…things like that. So…listen, if I am a relative, or close friend of an NBA player, the last thing I want to do is stand up and draw attention to myself. Let your respective team take care of the bragging rights on the court. You are only asking to be harrassed if you stand up and start showing your ass in front of a majority of people who disagree with you. Like i said, the Dallas fans should have a lot more class as well, but the line of who cast the first stone has been blurred a little in this case.
michael Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 1:09 am
What is this “mess” about a hard foul? First off look at Martin, look at the way he plays. I understand basketball and that things can get rough. I doubt many of you the ones that defend Martin have ever played on a team before! The fact is you do not push, knock down or hit players because they are playing well. Do not get mad because you can not defend a player. This is not Hockey! You do not check players or “set the tone” as Martin says. If this was allowed in basketball then why did he get a Tech and why are Flagrant fouls called? BECAUSE this is not allowed!! Martin is a Thug and he defends by Fear! Why would a player want to drive on Martin when the possibility of Martin Knocking the player to the ground is fairly great. The point is Dirk is one of the greatest players to ever play, and the best ever for the Mavs. Dirk Makes the money to prove that too! So why drive on Martin when he may knock you to the ground and then all of the sudden Dirk Breaks his Ankle, leg? Or Sprains his knee or worse? This is called Fear Defense and there is no place for this in the NBA. I hope one day someone “sets the tone” with Martin and KNOCKS him down and maybe Martin breaks something and we will see how he feels?
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Julia Nets fan and Martin fan Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 7:13 am
I wish the Nets had Martin still maybe if they had him, no player would be able to walk right to the basket and score. Dallas fans prob can’t respect Martin because he fouled Dirk, but I can respect him. He played for the Nets and once he left Nets went down hill. Kidd was great, but not as great as when he had Martin. And game 5 when Kidd landed hard, you could tell Martin respects him still as all these years, because he was seeing if Kidd was alright, that proves he isn’t a thug.
DYo Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 9:41 am
I too have seen the relatives of the the Nuggets players in person, and especially Martins family standing up and trying to rub it in to the people sitting behind them. Talk about no class, shuck and jive trailer / ghetto trash. They remind me of the trash you see on the news at high school games that get out of hand and the police have to be called. Mark Cuban is no better having to say that to them, but I think everyone is just pissed off because he remarks were right on target, but shhhh…they shouldn’t be said out loud because it might offend someone.
Larry Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 10:19 am
Here is what is disappointing to me.
Mark Cuban needs to grow up imo. He is the owner of a professional basketball team and needs to act with class, dignity and respect.
Kenyon Martin needs to go to a tattoo removal parlor and get rid of all of those tattoos and maybe someone will then show him some respect. With the signage all over his body, no one listens to him.
He is a good (not great) player, but as a former No 1. overall, he is a disappointment really.
Anyways, in the scheme of things, who really cares about a couple of rich guys bitching at each other
Grow up - the both of ‘ya
Ashley Jensen Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 10:49 am
Cuban started this whole mess - no surprise he acts like a 2 year old baby. I feel bad that his family has to see this disgraceful behavior. Not that Kenyon Martin is innocent here, but his part is so much smaller in this. I have not seen anything reported on his actions against Maverick personnel. We will see who the bigger “man” is here…
bzzzrks Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 11:15 am
“I ain’t never known nobody apology to somebody through other people”…..have to admit the guy sounds like a thug at least in his comments. he can’t even talk straight! lol
In kmart vernac: he aint no saint either - and contradicts himself to boot, by backing down from answering q’s about his own actions. coward!!
id Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 11:50 am
mavs should just trade for kmart. that’d really make things awkward. lol.
anthony c watkins Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 11:52 am
i feel like no matter what k-mart said mark cuban is an owner and anytime an owner goes after a member of someones family member because he lost a game should be kicked out of the league because if he was a nobody he would get his assed whopped or worse he is a not even a man he is lucky he has not lost the respect of his team how did the nba league let someone like him become involved in the nba,i understand players react because they are out there on the floor,tensions flair but an owner must keep its poise at all times
Italian Stallion Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 12:00 pm
I guess everyone thinks that Cuban should apologize for TELLING THE TRUTH about Martin?
He is a thug on the court! He practically admits it himself.
Since when is telling an obvious truth a crime or even disrepectful?
If Cuban needs to apologize, it’s to the NBA for losing him temper and professionalism, but not what he said about Martin.
jasper Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 12:33 pm
Kenyon Martin, 31 years of age, 6 foot 9 inches, 240 pounds, 8 years in the NBA and the only way he can play is like a thug because he’s getting old. When a player has to resort to THUG tactics there are two reasons; #1 he can’t compete with the likes of LeBron James, Koby Bryant, Dwight Howard, etc., etc., and #2 being a thug is the only way he’ll get attention. Lakers are going to ……… them up (have their way with) Ken-yawn. No apology necessary Mr. Cuban.
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James Lyles Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 12:39 pm
Kenyon needs to move on for now. If he feels he needs to deal with it deal with after his season is over. Right now the Nuggets as a team need to have there total focus on the Lakers.
This on going quibbling cannot be helping the Nuggets focus.
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May 18, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
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May 18, 2009 @ 2:05 pm
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GO NUGGETS Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
I agree…Cuban does need to apologize to Keyons mother…As a grown man you don’t say nothing like that to any ones mother…did he EVER think about what will happen or how that might of made her fell at that moment…UM…WE ALL KNOW THAT ANSWER..NO…He is a BIG BABY…apologize & get it over with…Moving on…Please tell me how how Kobee Bryant gets his flagnet foul dropped and no other players do…who is he…no one…I have noticed how he gets away with alot of things…If they was going to do that, they should of let Ron Artest beat his tell tail…HE IS A PUNK…just like other players…what is he upset that he isn’t MVP…Well who cares…that doesn’t give him any kind of right to put his elbow in anyones face…but he will learn…GO NUGGETS AND WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
GO NUGGETS Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
Kenyon Martin isn’t a THUG…tell the defintion of a thug?…YOU CAN’T…so you are to judge anyone…Kenyon plays hard…he plays with aggression…if he was on your cities team…would you say anything like that about him…I don’t think so…Dont hate the players for letting them know don’t take him lightly…thats like telling Ray Lewis not to hit hard during a football…you dumb dumb ditty…
justinmeilers Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:22 pm
Me and my Moms - That sums up this idiot. He was an idiot coming in the league and he’s and idiot now. I have no idea why someone with that much money still wants to be “hard.” Maybe his Moms beat him too hard
justinmeilers Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:24 pm
Sorry - Not an idiot - He’s retarded. I wonder what Marin will do after Basketball. No doubt they’ll bust him with a gun exposing himself to a minor while drunk driving.
GO NUGGETS Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
I agree with Bron42……For one you are at an basketball game…people are going to say what they want to say…whether it is family or not…but for DYo to call someone ghetto by there actions…than you are ghetto for saying that…I have been to games and said somethings to fans and non fans…it hypes up the game…they have figured out that that was his family so of course they gonna take it to heart…
chiwrites Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
KMart is one of the most unpleasant people I’ve ever interviewed. So unpleasant that last year I cut an interview short after his second answer, said ‘thank you’ and walked away. He then shouted after me, asking why I wasn’t going to keep interviewing him — this after mocking my first two questions. You think the Denver lockerroom isn’t thug-like? Take a step inside some time and enjoy the nastiness — if you’re into that.
Blue Light Special Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 3:45 pm
Nice use of the english language Kenyon. “I don’t back down from nobody” and “Me and my mom ain’t going to lose no sleep if we don’t talk to Mark Cuban” and “I ain’t never known nobody apology to somebody through other people.” Gotta love the NBA, it’s players and the owners.
Jackson Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 4:19 pm
Cuban told TNT that he tried to apologize in person to Martin before Game 4, but Martin would not meet with him. He said he tried to call both Martin and his mother personally before Game 4, but they did not return his calls. What else can Cuban do?
Cuban has a point that Martin is a thug, as evidenced by Martin’s profanity and threats, not to mention the sometimes questionable court play by Martin such as the flagrant on Nowitzky.
Cuban is emotional and let his emotions get the better of him after the bad call in Game 3. He should not have said anything to Martin’s mom. But I think he has done all he can to try to apologize personally.
Jackson Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 4:25 pm
The thuggets are overrated…..The NBA admitted it screwed up Game 3, which the Mavs should have won. And Anthony should have been suspended for Game 5 for taking a swing at Wright during Game 4, so the Mavs could conceivably have been up 3-2. And the Mavs were without a healthy Howard, who hurt his ankle again in Game 1.
GO NUGGETS Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 4:42 pm
How small are you to say something like about a person…ok…let me come to your level…he will have your job…better yet…he will fire you dumb dumd ditty self for that comment…once again here we go with the judging…why are you worried about what he will do…better yet do this favor for me…when you get the chance to met Kenyon Martin…come off of your knees and ask him what his plans are after basketball…it is none of your business…but I am pretty sure you won’t like the reply…and how do you know he doesn’t have anything going for him…DON’T HATE…
SocraticGadfly Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 9:07 pm
K-Mart, even more than his comments to Cuban or Mavs fans, needs to apologize for his anti-gay use of the word “fag.” And, David Stern needs to fine him for it, and hard.
It’s problematic in general, and doubly so, given the attitude toward homosexuality in large subsections of black population, including athletes.
Z Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 9:17 pm
Mark Cuban should apologize, he messed up (he messes up a lot), but he’s right about Kenyon Martin. There’s no way anyone could kid themselves into thinking he’s not a thug.
Both sides just need to shake hands and put this behind them. They are all being way too stubborn.
Old School Said,
May 18, 2009 @ 10:23 pm
Cuban we are proud of you… What makes Martin thinks (that’s a whole topic itself…Martin can’t think) he is a human being. He is acting like he was raised…so let the thug be. No double standard here, just the facts….he showed more damage to the Maverick fans by his actions of cursing, flippin them the bird and acting like a typical Nigget during the playoffs.
Steve Woz Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 1:48 am
K-Mart, Stop Crying. You say so much worse on the court. You are just trying to soak up some media attention, focus on how Gasol and AB are going to beat you up down low, not how you MAMA got told to sit down. Deal with it you little child
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May 19, 2009 @ 4:13 am
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MavsRock Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 6:57 am
One thing that needs to be understood by Kenyon is that Cuban does not owe an apology to anyone. Just like how Kenyon has right to free speech (and tattoos), Cuban has the same. Kenyon has been using his “right” of free speech for some time now, anyway.
chris Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 7:54 am
A real man would not go after someones Mother no matter what his beef is with the other man. mark Cuban needs to be locked in a room with Kenyon martin and then see if he is as vocally courageous with keynon as he seems to be with his Mother.
Ellis Davis Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 8:37 am
Many here are idiots that I said I wouldn’t respond to. However, enough is enough. You are standing here talking about what happened. Well, I was there. As you are watching the tape, i am the guy grabbing LaLa. To be honest, I grabbed her but I wanted to swing myself. We were called the N word, told that we should be dead, spit on, and had things thrown on me. They told LaLa that her son was a mixed breed monkey. Is that how Dallas is? It was an absolutely great way to enjoy myself after being in Iraq for two years. a I just got back my shirt and jacket that drinks were thrown on. By the way, Cuban graciously agreed to pay the cleaning costs.
So some say we should have been quiet. Why? Noone is quiet when they were yelling at us pregame. Noone was quiet while Dallas was up. I sat two seats away from Kenyon’s friend Jeff and he’s from Dallas. He had people that knew his Nuggets affiliation THROWING CRAP (cow poop) at his house. Was that cool? How would you have reacted?
I’ve been to Dallas 4 times for games, and in two of them I’ve heard racial slurs and fan hostility. Coincidence?
Pope Benedict Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 9:28 am
Peace I give you… and remember that prices are cheaper at K-Mart.
justinmeilers Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 11:11 am
I like it when idiots talk about what a real man is. Being a real man is retarded slang for I’m not smart, and in most cases, have no money because I have to keep it real. It’s always funny to see someone idiot whose worth millions acting like Marin does. It just enforces stereotypes.
Holy crap - Racists in Texas - I don’t believe it. How could this happen. You should check out Denver sometime. KKK central
LaLa - That’s really his wife and not a stripper. Wow - LaLa - Is that short for something?
space Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 2:05 pm
the thug comment was 100% unnecessary. cuban as an owner simply lit the fuse to a really powerful bomb. the NBA’s first mistake was not calling both of them and telling them BOTH to kill it or else. i just read the term ‘denver thuggets’ in this blog, but have already heard it somewhere else as well. the nba can ill afford a play on words of that nature. with all the fouling and aggression the pistons had the worst name they generated was ‘bad boys’…
commenting on kenyon martin’s playing ability is pointless. it trips me out to see people say he was a poor #1 draft pick. THERE really weren’t any wades, or lebrons or jordans to draft that year.
S. M. Williams Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 4:47 pm
I love how Kenyon Martin is now occupying the high moral high ground…what a joke. When is KMart going to “be a man” and apologize for calling Cuban a f** m***********? Cuban and KMart are both morons, but at least Cuban knows he’s an a**. As for all the tough talk, all the tats in the world can’t change the fact that KMart is just another phony thug wannabe who dresses up in the gear and talks tough on camera, but won’t ever do a darn thing. Underneath all of that tough guy lamination is just another coddled athlete possessing a delicate underbelly of a privileged brat who has always had somebody fighting his battles for him.
justinmeilers Said,
May 19, 2009 @ 7:15 pm
Can someone please answer about LaLa- What is she?
space Said,
May 20, 2009 @ 11:07 am
justinmeilers—
lala was a host on one of mtv’s shows a few years back. she’s a Dj & tv personality.
i have no idea where or when they met. LaLa is NOT an stripper, exotic dancer or whatever from what i know. she was the lady that carmelo got into an ‘altercation’ in NY over after some people/fans/whoever got aggressive/spat at her or something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_La_(entertainer)
Mike Said,
May 20, 2009 @ 1:59 pm
Of course everyone else found out before his mom! they don’t have the internet in the south oak cliff. kenyon martin is nothing but a ghetto bastard!
yackity yack Said,
May 20, 2009 @ 2:34 pm
I think its pretty funny what is happening here.
-Kenyon Martin attempts to bully dirk on the basketball court with his physical (make-up-for-lack-of-skill) on court play.
-Kenyon collects paychecks off being an athletic, skill-lacking, physical player. The closest thing to an “enforcer” in basketball.
-Kenyon has lips/whatever else tattood on his neck, creating a perception in the minds of fans that he is tuff. Often times tattoos, especially ones in places as abstract and job-preventing as the “neck” will trend towards people associating you/your look with other people who have abstract/job-preventing tattoos. ie; hells angles, ex-cons and THUGS..
-Kenyon’s girl self promotes herself as “bad bitch” and titles her album “thuglife.” Does songs with Trick Daddy whose singnature song also claims, “baby, cuz I’m a thug.”
-Kenyon’s sister/family takes it personally that he is called a “thug” on dallas’ sports radio.
-Carmello Anthony is remembered for having a cameo in such thug life movies as “STOP SNITCHIN.”
-Carmello Anthony is suspended from the league for fighting. (don’t forget it was a drive-by-and-run style punch)
-Carmellos girl, lala, who is an ex-hip-hop VJ, already has associations to gangsta rap iconism.
-Lala flicks red drink on mavs fans at game 4 and is ejected.
-Lala tries to spin the ejection scene onto the mavs fans by claiming “racism” and generalizing the whole city of dallas.
-In game 3 the Mavs get a bad call and are upset, emotional and possibly still resonating some anger/pain from the 06′ finals when a couple calls by the nba turned a game or two.
-Kenyon, who was not even in the situation with the mavs vs. the refs, decides to get himself into it with Josh Howard and the Mavs team at the end of game 3. It wasn’t his battle but he still wanted to fight it.
-Kenyon leaves game 4 with alot to say to mavs fans and alot to say about Mark Cuban.
-Kenyon is now attempting to bully Mark Cuban into another apology.
-Mark Cuban doesn’t owe Kenyon or Kenyons mom an apology. He simply didn’t say anything that is not atleast true in the court of public opinion and his words should not be taken personally as you can see much of Kenyons lifestyle is “thug life” already.
-Mark Cuban was WRONG to pull Kenyons mom into this and that is the only area where Mark can be held accountable. He offended Kenyons mom when he should have offended Kenyon.
-Mark doesn’t HAVE TO apologize to anybody.
-A man would have already dropped the subject.
-A bully would just keep on bullying
Now what is all this drama about?
justinmeilers Said,
May 21, 2009 @ 4:41 pm
Has there ever been a player like Martin who came into the league and never changed. He was the exact same player a Cinn. A little less athletic but he really has the same exact moves that he had at 18 years old.
LaLa - Is that short for something?
It is a stipper name and no doubt she will be hiring a LaLawyer when it’s time to take half of Melo’s Lamoney.
Martin is Latarded.
frank Said,
May 22, 2009 @ 8:48 am
Dallas Mavericks …. sad Dallas Mavericks fans worse …. Mark Cuban a curse for the Dallas Mavericks so please as a Non Mavericks fans please keep it up Karma is a wonderful thing…
Kenyon Martin Said,
June 3, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
what’s all this S#it about?! I’ma f@ck ou all up for talking about me n my momma!! thug life baby!