Comments on: Coming out a hard thing to do http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/ An NBA basketball blog Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:43:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: lazy http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-1094 lazy Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:05:17 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-1094 an issue i appreciate reading about and dont see often enough. great article Sam. an issue i appreciate reading about and dont see often enough. great article Sam.

]]> By: daveh http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-998 daveh Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:13:20 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-998 "stuckey Said, October 20, 2008 @ 2:56 pm Depression has been around since the beginning of man." Stuckey's scientific analysis into the history of mental disorders is absolutely correct. Obviously, those Geico cavemen suffer from depression. “stuckey Said,
October 20, 2008 @ 2:56 pm

Depression has been around since the beginning of man.”

Stuckey’s scientific analysis into the history of mental disorders is absolutely correct. Obviously, those Geico cavemen suffer from depression.

]]> By: ML http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-996 ML Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:42:28 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-996 A timely and necessary article. The money issue I don't understand. Simply because a man makes a lot of money does not exclude him from depression. The two are not related. Money doesn't solve problems. End of story. A lot of this comes down to chemical imbalances. The right treatment and support system can get things back on track. Here's hoping things work out for Delonte. A timely and necessary article.

The money issue I don’t understand. Simply because a man makes a lot of money does not exclude him from depression. The two are not related. Money doesn’t solve problems. End of story.

A lot of this comes down to chemical imbalances. The right treatment and support system can get things back on track. Here’s hoping things work out for Delonte.

]]> By: QuentinC http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-990 QuentinC Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:11:14 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-990 Stuckey, you've obviously been spending too much time with Tom Cruise. Do you have any factual basis at all for bashing anti-depressants? There are millions of people who function perfectly well because they take anti-depressants, and could not function at all without them. J is right on target in comparing them to drugs that treat "physical" diseases. Irresponsible and completely uniformed statements like Tom Cruise's blather do so much more harm. Stuckey, don't join that chorus of intolerance. Stuckey, you’ve obviously been spending too much time with Tom Cruise. Do you have any factual basis at all for bashing anti-depressants? There are millions of people who function perfectly well because they take anti-depressants, and could not function at all without them. J is right on target in comparing them to drugs that treat “physical” diseases.

Irresponsible and completely uniformed statements like Tom Cruise’s blather do so much more harm. Stuckey, don’t join that chorus of intolerance.

]]> By: DEPRESSION « COACH’S NETWORK http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-989 DEPRESSION « COACH’S NETWORK Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:59:18 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-989 [...] basketball writer has an outsatanding piece on ‘depression’.  A must read for all at HoopsHype.com Delonte West didn’t say it when he returned to the Cleveland Cavaliers last week after a leave of [...] [...] basketball writer has an outsatanding piece on ‘depression’.  A must read for all at HoopsHype.com Delonte West didn’t say it when he returned to the Cleveland Cavaliers last week after a leave of [...]

]]> By: Gilles Vaudois http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-988 Gilles Vaudois Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:54:12 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-988 Lamar Odom played some of his finest games last year, under Phil Jackson. We're talking about a 9-time champion as a coach, 2-time as a player. The guy made Luc Longley and Bill Wennington look good. You see Lamar Odom, with that body and all the effort that he gave throughout his career to get to this point, and he's not producing like he could. So what do you do ? You try to get him to produce more. And that has to come from within, the drive to succeed, and sometimes it takes a Phil Jackson to get that 7-year veteran who still hasn't got it to finally get it out of himself. And yeah, it's awfully difficult for a coach to find new ways to get it done, for the good of the player and for the team, to finally win a championship. Somewhere, somehow, Lamar Odom has to get tough. And if this guy right here, who everybody depends on to get to the top, caves in because of depression, when he could be the difference between a finalist and a champion, after 20 years of bouncing a basketball and perfeting his body and game, that's lame. Lamar Odom played some of his finest games last year, under Phil Jackson.

We’re talking about a 9-time champion as a coach, 2-time as a player.

The guy made Luc Longley and Bill Wennington look good.

You see Lamar Odom, with that body and all the effort that he gave throughout his career to get to this point, and he’s not producing like he could.

So what do you do ? You try to get him to produce more. And that has to come from within, the drive to succeed, and sometimes it takes a Phil Jackson to get that 7-year veteran who still hasn’t got it to finally get it out of himself.

And yeah, it’s awfully difficult for a coach to find new ways to get it done, for the good of the player and for the team, to finally win a championship.

Somewhere, somehow, Lamar Odom has to get tough. And if this guy right here, who everybody depends on to get to the top, caves in because of depression, when he could be the difference between a finalist and a champion, after 20 years of bouncing a basketball and perfeting his body and game, that’s lame.

]]> By: ae http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-986 ae Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:01:21 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-986 hey sam, just heard the news with bulls.com. congrats and glad to have u back in chicago! hey sam,
just heard the news with bulls.com. congrats and glad to have u back in chicago!

]]> By: J http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-983 J Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:06:32 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-983 I beg to differ that most current treatments for depression and anxiety cause "drug addition [sic]". There's a huge difference between physical dependence and addiction. Addiction involves compulsive behavior to keep using the substance in question, no matter the consequences. Dependence is a physical need for the drug, period. Is a diabetic addicted to insulin? What about my father-in-law and his blood pressure medicine? The fact is modern medicine rarely "cures" anything. At best, it manages conditions and makes the lives of patients more "normal". NOBODY should decide without medical supervision to go off prescribed medication on their own. These drugs are not sugar pills. There are consequences for going off many medications but can they can be managed by a doctor. I think it's great that athletes like West are coming "out" about mental health issues. I suspect that it's not that there are more mental health cases out there now but that they are just being diagnosed more often. Behavior that used to be dismissed as "weird" is getting a second look because people are more aware now. I hope that what happened to Pistol Pete in the 70's wouldn't happen today. who knows? I beg to differ that most current treatments for depression and anxiety cause “drug addition [sic]“. There’s a huge difference between physical dependence and addiction. Addiction involves compulsive behavior to keep using the substance in question, no matter the consequences. Dependence is a physical need for the drug, period. Is a diabetic addicted to insulin? What about my father-in-law and his blood pressure medicine? The fact is modern medicine rarely “cures” anything. At best, it manages conditions and makes the lives of patients more “normal”. NOBODY should decide without medical supervision to go off prescribed medication on their own. These drugs are not sugar pills. There are consequences for going off many medications but can they can be managed by a doctor.
I think it’s great that athletes like West are coming “out” about mental health issues. I suspect that it’s not that there are more mental health cases out there now but that they are just being diagnosed more often. Behavior that used to be dismissed as “weird” is getting a second look because people are more aware now. I hope that what happened to Pistol Pete in the 70’s wouldn’t happen today. who knows?

]]> By: thought he meant http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-978 thought he meant Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:31:17 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-978 i think he is implying that delonte west is gay and that is the reason why he is depressed, am i right? ive heard that before, and also about mike miller. i think he is implying that delonte west is gay and that is the reason why he is depressed, am i right? ive heard that before, and also about mike miller.

]]> By: stuckey http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/2008/10/19/coming-out-a-hard-thing-to-do/#comment-972 stuckey Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:59:06 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/smith/?p=34#comment-972 Maybe I should not have used the term modern medicine. But prescription drugs for depression and anxiety may help short term but the create a long term condition of drug addition. Even worse they really never cure depression and anxiety, they only temporarily help with symptons, and than once withdrawel hits, the symptons get worse. Maybe I should not have used the term modern medicine. But prescription drugs for depression and anxiety may help short term but the create a long term condition of drug addition. Even worse they really never cure depression and anxiety, they only temporarily help with symptons, and than once withdrawel hits, the symptons get worse.

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