Ben Gordon: “I don’t have any bad feelings towards Chicago”
How’s been this summer compared to last year’s when you had to deal with all the uncertainty about your future?
Ben Gordon: It’s obviously been a lot more calm and a lot less stressful – just by having clarity with my situation, having signed early in the summer with the Detroit Pistons. Everything in this summer has been about moving forward, making the transition from the city of Chicago to the city of Detroit. That as opposed to last summer, when it was more stressful. There was a whole lot of uncertainty all the way through training camp. This summer has been less stressful.
Did that stress of the summer carry to the regular season?
BG: When the season started, everything was clear. Clarity was brought into the situation: I knew I was going to play on a one-year deal and that was it. The stress I had is the same every basketball player has: To perform well. It was a little bit more hard because it was a one-year deal and I had to worry about being healthy, performing well and trying to get my team to win as many games as possible. There was a little bit more pressure in that aspect, but other than that… The whole thing about the contract… I mean, clarity was there. I knew exactly what I had to do, so it was a little easier because I had the situation cleared up.
Going into free agency, were you expecting to change teams?
BG: After I signed my one-year deal with the Bulls, that same day I knew that could very well be my last year with the team. Or it could be the the start of something new. Going in, I had an attitude that I was going to expect any and everything – whether it be re-signing or moving to a new team and playing with new teammates. I really didn’t believe one thing was going to happen more than the other.
Tell me a little bit about how the free agency process was. Is it true that the Bulls never made an offer?
BG: Yeah, it’s true. You know, I think the level of interest that the Pistons had and they showed was far greater than that of the Bulls. Most teams in that situation, if they want to re-sign a player like myself in the situation I was under, they’d be very clear about it even before free agency started. But as days got closer, I realized the Bulls weren’t interested in re-signing me. Once July 1 came, the feeling I had was true. They didn’t make an offer. I visited Detroit and that evening I pretty much made my mind up that’s where I wanted to be.
Did it make you feel bad that the Bulls, the team you had led in scoring several years, didn’t show more interest in re-signing you?
BG: Yes and no. After being there for five years, I had a great understanding of how the organization operates. I had a better understanding from the inside, that people on the outside don’t see, of how things work. And at the end of the day, it’s a business. Everybody in that position is going to make the decision that they feel is the best business decision. As a basketball player, obviously with everything I’ve done here and the potential of the future with this team, to not be made an offer is kind of a slap in the face. But from a business standpoint, I fully understand why everything happened the way it did. I don’t have any bad feelings. It’s time to move on and start a new chapter in my career.
When you look back at the Chicago years, how do you feel about what you did there?
BG: I feel that we were like a team that was always on the verge of taking the next step and become one of the elite teams. I feel like we always had great talent, but were always missing one or two pieces to get over the hump. We never got over the hump while I was there, so I’m not happy about that. I wish we’d had more success as a team. We could’ve been great if we had one more piece or at least we had kept the teams together. That part of my career is over. I had a good time there playing basketball. I was able to kind of establish myself in the league and I’m grateful for that. But now I’m going forward and my mentality now is, “How can I, with my teammates, get Detroit to a championship level?” It takes a while. It’s not one year or two years. It takes a while, but that’s my new goal.
There’s not much buzz about the Pistons despite having you and Charlie Villanueva on board now. How do you feel about that?
BG: It’s very clear that the position in which Detroit now is a rebuilding stage. If you look at the team all the way back to 2004, when they won the championship, every year since the team has been competitive. Last season, they took a dip. Joe Dumars realized there were some changes that needed to be made. He kept some of the guys of the team that helped win the championship, but all the while it was time to get some new blood and get ready for another run. It’s only right and natural that we’re under the radar right now cause we’ve got to prove ourselves and establish ourselves. It’s not going to happen in one year, like I said. This is something that we’re trying to build over the next few years.
Do you expect your role to be similar to the one you had in Chicago? Got any idea if you’re going to start or come off the bench?
BG: A lot of that comes from the coach. I learned that early. It’s going to be the coach’s decision at the end of the day. I’ve been on teams where I led the team on scoring, but I was coming off the bench. I’ve been on teams where I started. It’s just whatever makes the team better and the coach feels is more helpful for the team. In Detroit, what I’m expecting is to show my overall game a little bit more. Not just be somebody who can score, but also one who can make plays for his teammates and make them better. That’s something I’m looking forward to.
There are many people who feel that you are just a shooter or just a scorer. Does that bother you?
BG: It doesn’t really matter to me. Everybody’s got a role on the team. There are guys out there whose role is to rebound, others whose role is to score points… That doesn’t mean they can’t do other things, but that’s their role on the team and that’s what the team needs them to do to be successful. What I pride myself on as a player is my preparation. Making sure that I do the right things to be in a position to do what’s necessary for the team. I can definitely do a lot more than what I put on display with the Bulls. I’m looking forward to those new opportunities and at the same time become a better overall player.
As one of the top shooters in the game, who do you think are the Top 5 shooters in the NBA? You can pick yourself.
BG: Pure shooters? I’ve had to say Michael Redd, Ray Allen, Jason Kapono, Stojakovic and Dirk Nowitzki. There’s a bunch of great shooters out there, but those can really shoot the ball.
The European Championship began Monday and Britain is playing. Why did you decide to pass on playing for the team?
BG: I made up my mind and I’m definitely on board to play for Great Britain. But I didn’t want to make a commitment as far as when I was going to play till I felt that I was totally committed to that cause. I want to go there when I’m ready and this summer to me was about getting situated and moving from Chicago to Detroit. I wanted to have everything in order in my life before going overseas and representing the country.
They have been shooting a documentary about your life. How did that come up?
BG: It was one of my good friends that I grew up with. He came up with that idea, that we did a documentary. Especially this past season, it was such a big year for me that you kind of wanted to capture that and show what it’s like for a player going into a contract year and then making the transition to a new team. I think is going pretty good so far.
Do you feel comfortable around the cameras?
BG: I feel more comfortable because I’m doing it with one of my childhood friends. Working with him on this makes the whole thing easier for me. Other than that, I don’t want my life to be put in front of the cameras. But with him, it’s easy.
PF Piston Pieces 9/8/09 - Detroit Pistons Fan Community - PistonsForum.com Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 6:09 am
[...] forward to those new opportunities and at the same time become a better overall player." HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs - Jorge Sierra
Crossyboy Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 6:18 am
The GB fans are all excited about having Ben Gordon on board. Deng; Mensah-Bonsu & Gordon help make a team we can be very proud of (assuming we qualify for London 2012).
Now all we need is Azubuike and we’re there.
Looking forward to Gordon playing in Detroit. Would like to see him play a little 1 if he’s up to it.
Vittorio De Zen Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 8:37 am
Sounds like he’s being very mature about the situation. The Bulls disrespected the man.
Great news for GB, too.
Gordon: No Bad Feelings Towards Bulls Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 12:00 pm
[...] Chicago Bulls players Ben Gordon recently sat down with HoopsHype.com’s Jorge Sierra for an interview in which they discussed free agency and Gordon’s feelings toward his former team. Gordon [...]
Ben Gordon Reflects On Time With Bulls | Dabullz Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 12:21 pm
[...] Jorge Sierra of Hoopshype.com recently did an interview with Ben Gordon. In the interview, Gordon reflects on his time in Chicago and the free agency situation. I’m going to pick out and discuss some of the most interesting parts of the interview. Tell me a little bit about how the free agency process was. Is it true that the Bulls never made an offer? [...]
James Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 2:30 pm
Hoopshype didn’t bring up the shady negotiating tactics of Gordon’s agent. The agent refused to inform the Bulls what they needed to offer to beat Detroit’s. They wanted them offer blind. And Gordon is crying, boo-hoo. Look at your agent’s shady tactics, or was it your shady tactics Ben?
Dallas Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
I will miss seeing Gordon in a Bulls uniform, I always felt like the Bulls took care of Hinrich and Deng, but shafted Ben. The best player on the Team. I hate the Pistons but I’m a Gordon fan so I will be rooting for him. Good Luck Ben and we true Bulls fans will Miss you wearing a Bulls uniform.
knock knock Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 6:53 pm
James- You do know that the bulls were given the ability to match the offer. The offer was LEGAL you know. He just got the money he was lookin for, and chicago didn’t want him a part of their team anymore. Nothin to it. Who cares.
Chris Said,
September 8, 2009 @ 11:36 pm
The Bulls made a giant mistake letting BG go. One of my favorite Bulls of all time. The organization lied to its fans, saying that BG was a #1 priority and not even making an offer. Typical Reinsdorf, who is in love with Hinrich and Deng. I hope Ben tears up the Bulls each time he faces them. I never thought I’d say this — but I will be rooting for Detroit and Ben when they face the Bulls, which will take a step back this year. The next player that the Bulls will throw under the bus — Tyrus Thomas, who the Bulls have failed to develop and let be a jump shooter rather than a game changer down low. Guaranteed. I’ve been watching this organization do this for years. Bulls lucked into Rose, don’t have the will as an organization to do what it takes to be a champion anymore. That means paying the luxury tax. Reinsdorf got six out of Jordan and is content with letting the White Sox do whatever it takes and the Bulls toll in mediocrity. It’s a shame. Rose, Gordon, Noah and hopefully a legit 4 could have been a beautiful thing for years to come, especially with BG as the third option capable of being the #1 option on any night. Typical Gordon, though, in this interview. A class act. It’s a shame Chicago (including many short-sighted Bulls fans) didn’t realize what we had instead of always picking apart Ben’s deficiencies when everyone on the Bulls over the past 5 years was hardly a perfect player. Now we got a $10 million backup at the position of our franchise player in Hinrich. And we let the #3 overall pick in the 2004 Draft go for nothing. That’s how you run an organization, ladies and gentleman.
Jerry cantrell Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 4:22 am
um what about the very similar offers the Bulls offered Ben two years in a row prior? Now he has to live in Detroit…
Ben Gordon speaks | Detroit Bad Boys Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 9:15 am
[...] Gordon recently spoke with Jorge Sierra of HoopsHype: There’s not much buzz about the Pistons despite having you and Charlie Villanueva on board now. [...]
Trott Felipe Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 10:36 am
Screw you, Vittorio. The Bulls did what they had to do. haha. (I don’t really mean to start a fight, I just disagree with your comment on the disrespect of the Bulls, and I thought saying “Screw you, Vittorio” would be fun.)
Thomas K. Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 11:46 am
The Bulls twice offered Ben deals that eclipsed those of Detroit and Kirk Hinrich, equal to Deng’s extension - he turned them down because he and his agent were convinced he was a max-contract starting shooting guard, despite the lack of height, speed, defense, and playmaking ability. Also, don’t let him blow smoke up your collective arses, he loathed coming off the bench and never really hid his feelings about that.
Ben could have been an $11M-a-year perennial sixth-man-of-the year and an icon in the city, if only he checked his ego at the door and embraced that role, he could have been a Chicago sports legend, someone that fans would have held aloft with the greats of Chicago sports history. There was a great excitement for Bulls fans when he would come off the bench late in the 1st quarter and start lighting up the opponents second team, making up double-digit deficits in mere minutes, he was clearly one of the very best in the league in that situation - not so as a starter. The 18 pts a game were still there but all too often he would drop those 2-9 FG, 7 pt games, maddeningly inconsistent as opposed to first off the bench where he was guaranteed to explode nightly, he had a knack for it that was truly incredible to watch, unlike much that I have seen in my many years as an NBA fan.
Now, as a Piston he will still get his 18/3/3 a game but the Pistons will underachieve with him as the starting two, and he will inevitably be scapegoated and subsequently traded in a couple years, relegating him back to the backup role that he could have kept in Chicago, only this time with far less adulation and fanfare. If only he could have seen the forest for the trees…
Mikey Mike Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 2:16 pm
Well put Thomas K. People keep talking about “the Bulls never put an offer on the table”, what they fail to mention is the offers put on the table each of the two years prior to this off-season despite being inconsistent and a defensive liability. And he wants to talk about respect.
Trott Felipe Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 4:06 pm
Exactly, Thomas K.
Rashid R. Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 5:10 pm
BG may have kept it classy, but not really truthful… There’s no way he can have this conversation without bringing up the poor relationship his agent created between himself and the organization for one… Secondly, if he would have taken the 5 year 50 million dollar first offer from two years ago he would be headed into his third year at ten mil a year instead of his first year at 11 mil a year… You do the math, when he has been making less than 6 mil over those past two seasons… He would have actually been in a better financial situation accepting the Bulls original offer… That way two years from now he would have been in line for another great deal, and he would have still been under 30 years old… Now he will be trying to get someone to sign him again after the Detroit contract, but his 30+ age will play a negative role in his negotiations… So what he effectively did was play himself… Most big time players sign a rookie contract plus two very good 5-6 year contracts before they turn 30; but not BG… John Paxton treated him with respect two years ago even tho he was a one dimensional, undersized player for his position… Everyone talks about him getting Luol Deng money, but let’s face it, Luol Deng had all the makings of an up and coming star at his position (Size, Skill, Pedigree, Injury history)… No one could have projected his decline… Detroit will see how fun it is to have the half pint scoring machine playing the same position of the KoBe Bryants and Brandon Roy’s of the league… He’s going to give back every point he gets, and on some nights he will be shut down on both ends… Have fun Detroit, I’m happy with skill and size, and players that play on both ends on my Bull’s teams… Hey, John Salmons has averaged close to 20 ppg per for a while now… Detroit, what can your starting five do against this:
1. Derrick Rose
2. John Salmons
3. Luol Deng
4. Tyrus Thomas
5. Joakim Noah
Answer that even BG (rebuilding) would give you: NOT A DA#@ THANG!!!
GO BULLS!!!
Brad P. Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 7:13 pm
One small correction. Unless things radically change, Rip Hamilton will be starting at the 2 in Detroit, Stuckey at the 1, and Gordon will be coming off the bench.
Chris Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 8:20 pm
How about the fact that Ben went back to the Bulls last summer and said he would take the deal that they were offering at the time, but the Bulls pulled it back. The Bulls are hardly innocent here…I’m not disagreeing that the negotiations were contentious and Gordon’s agent Raymond Brothers sounds like a bit of a nut to deal with. But at the end of the day, the Bulls could have had Gordon locked up. They’re lucky that the media in Chicago could care less, as they’ve gotten a free pass on this issue, considering that Luol Deng has been nonexistent for two seasons now.
Another thing about Deng…he’s been hurt for significant parts of three of his five seasons, and small forward is the easiest position to fill in the game. Gordon’s missed 12 games in 5 seasons. Despite being 6′0” (what everyone holds against him), Ben’s got more heart than Deng has and will ever show. And remember when Deng made a contract ultimatum last summer…saying he wouldn’t even entertain resigning with the Bulls if they didn’t get in done in the summer of 2008. Well, the Bulls caved a week later and locked him up to a better contract than they were originally offering.
Simply said, there was a double standard. The Bulls panicked that they would lose both guys, signed Deng and now they’ve lost the wrong guy. Gordon and Salmons = a better combination than Deng and Salmons.
I do agree with Thomas K, though, that Gordon was an ideal 6th man and that this is what his position should be throughout his career. All I know is that the Bulls are not a better team without Gordon, and that he is not as selfish as everyone makes him out to be.
Rashid R. Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 9:06 pm
At the end of the day, if you continue to string a team along for three summers running they have every right to get tired of the shannagans of you and your agent and pull an offer… The Bull’s got a pass from Chicago media for pulling that deal, because no one in the Chicago media wanted him back for that kind of money. We’d much rather save it for a more complete free agent in 2010… I’m not taking anything away from Ben being a value, but he wanted to be a starting SG with Chicago, and every GM in the league including the Bulls and Detroit see him as a sixth man… Trust me he didn’t want to go to Detroit, their just weren’t any other teams dumb enough to waste that kind of money on him… Detroit will be trying to dump his contract after a couple of seasons when they find that it’s impossible to win with a weak defensive player at the most dangerous position to guard in the league… What no one wants to talk about is the fact that the Bull’s no longer wanted BG… They saw him as a great six man, and he sees himself as a max player/star in the league… Ever wonder why when he refused to sign with the Bulls for months he had to come crawling back and try to accept the Bull’s offer??? It’s because no other team in the league believes he’s worth what he thinks he’s worth… Every analyst that I’ve seen speak on the matter feels like Detroit overpaid for the guy and their all right… I’m just glad Chicago didn’t make that mistake… And BTW, I would much rather a team with no mismatches than a team with a one dimensional undersized player at one of the most important positions… So yes, I would much rather a healthy Luol Deng at the three, and a strong, tall, offensive/defensive John Salmons at the two… Because defense wins championships… Our three guard rotation of Rose, Salmons, & Hinrich is killing Detroit’s and it’s enough… If Luol Deng comes back healthy and continues to have a strong mid-range game he’ll be an above average 3 like he was two years ago… Rose takes another step as well as Thomas and Noah… The Bulls are so fine without him… He’s a good guy, so to quote him, he left a team on the rise, for one that’s rebuilding… The Bull’s will be headed to the playoffs this season, and Detroit will be headed home… And what’s more, the Bulls will be rolling in doe in the big free agent summer of 2010 will our rival Pistons will be broke because they wasted their money on two one dimensional players in Charlie V. and BG… That team is obviously boycotting defense for the foreseeable future… Ever wonder why the majority of sensable Bulls fans are happy with the roster decisions made by management, and the same contingent in Detroit thinks it’s time for their fallen hero of a GM to move on… It’s called seeing the big picture, and not trickin your money off to soon…
Go Bulls!!! Detroit will be our doormat for seasons to come!!!
Rashid R. Said,
September 9, 2009 @ 9:22 pm
BTW,
Any fake Bull’s fan that ever utters the words “I will be rooting for the lowly Detroit Pistons against the Beloved Chicago Bull’s” isn’t worth the gum that’s stuck to the bottom of my shoes… You say the Bull’s lucked into Derrick Rose?” What an idiot, what franchise doesn’t luck into the number one pick overall??? I guess Howard is in Orlando on purpose and luck had nothing to do with it… I guess the Clippers aren’t lucky to have the guy they drafted first overall this draft??? True Bull’s fans are disgusted to have ever been associated with the likes of you… I’m done responding to such a despicable disgrace of a Chicagoan (If you actually are a Chicagoan)… You should move to Detroit and kneel for BG full-time… Fake a$$ fans, what a joke of an existence!!!
Go Bull’s!!!
Chris Said,
September 10, 2009 @ 7:37 pm
Ha ha Rashid R — hardly a fake fan — born, raised and still live in Chicago but don’t have the stuck-up, “Chicago is the center of the universe” attitude that you do — your “with us or against us” attitude is pure Chicago garbage — you would make a good politician here — you should consider it as a career
at the end of the day, it’s about producing — which BG did for five years — all of Ben’s deficiencies aside, what he did best was score and he did that for the Bulls — have fun continuing to attach “ifs” to Luol
hey, I’ll root for the players because they’re in Bulls uniforms, but I’m tired of how this organization behaves — egos aside, you don’t let an agent or hurt feelings dictate whether a player is worthy of still being part of your organization — my dislike for Deng’s game aside, even Deng had to make an ultimatum last year to get his contract done — what does that say about the Bulls as an organization to deal with?
i’m 27 years old and have been watching the bulls since i can remember anything — that doesn’t mean I have to accept ineptitude and lying — regardless of what you think of BG, the Bulls did bad business — you don’t let an asset like that go for nothing, especially when Pax has been preaching such a philosophy for years — and to top it off, don’t lie to fans who actually demand some accountability — from the minute Gar Foreman was named GM, he made numerous statements how Gordon was a Bulls type of player and that he was their top priority — they should have just been honest — I would still have been pissed but would have least respected the decision
I’m also not going to be naive like Rashid R and accept Reinsdorfian spin, him telling the Tribune that Gordon wouldn’t have even gotten minutes on this team next year now with Jannero Pargo ($9 million cheaper and just hoping to get back in the NBA) — also, Reinsdorf saying that Deng will definitely be an All-Star next year if healthy — pure b.s.and pie-in-the-sky language — has anyone watched Deng when healthy the last two years — he has no confidence out there — the guy’s soft and has been lost in the offense — this season is a make or break year for him as a Bull in my opinion
the Bulls have always been a difficult organization to deal with, so it’s hardly just on Ben here — in terms of Rose, they made the right pick so I’ll give them credit there — besides that,this organization has not done much to inspire confidence in me the last couple of seasons — have fun pinning all of your hopes on the summer of 2010 — tons of teams will be after Bosh and Wade — there are much better organizations out there who know how to deal with people — do you remember the summer of 2000? i hate to say it, but I don’t see the Bulls getting a superstar, unless they are proactive and make a mid-season trade (which having Gordon would have at least given them another valuable asset)
i thought the bulls had evolved as an organization when krause left and paxson did a great job his first couple of years, but it’s clear that reinsdorf runs the show when it comes to long-term decisions, so nothing has really changed
also have fun pinning your hopes on a back court that lacks depth — hinrich looked good at the end of last season because he missed a lot of time — he will likely wear down by end of the season…and salmons is turning 30 years old — one injury to the back court and this team is screwed — when Deng goes down, the Bulls don’t miss a beat but looked like a much more fluid team
as for everyone noting Gordon’s lack of D — I’m not going to argue — I will say this, this team won 49 games with this guy as a starter and has regressed in the last two years as an entire unit…vinny ball = poor man’s dantoni ball…pargo = homeless man’s ben gordon…bulls will be lucky to get in playoffs next year, considering improvement in the East
Coach D Said,
September 11, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
Bottom line, BG is happy. Chicago had a chance to make him happy, and they blew it. And for those idiot Bulls fans that think that BG was overpaid, keep saying that when he’s torching Hinrich and the Bulls with threes, and tear drops. Keep saying that when they have to double team him because they can’t stop him while he’s dishin’ dimes to Rip and Tayshaun and Charlie. Put your hands over your eyes and keep telling yourself, “he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid” while he’s killing the Bulls this year. It’ll make you feel better. NOT!!
Calvin Said,
September 12, 2009 @ 12:04 pm
There weren’t many teams jumping at BG for $10 mill./year. Lucky for Ben Detroit overspent for Ben at $11 mil. when most team were trying to get under the salary cap. Ben will definitely continue to be a big time scorer in Detroit but he’s now their defensive liability. If Ben does play more than 35 minutes a game will he continue to average 20 pts. a game.
He’s going to have to because the Pistons look to be a bad rebounding team this year.
Moe Peep Said,
September 12, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
Fall back Homie, u know nothing of life in Chi-town.
C’mon All this in the week MJ gets in the hall.
I’m Bulls blood - real talk.
Yo, listen to some Twista and Kanye and get your Chi city game on if you DISrepect my city you better ccome correct.
Peace.
Evan Said,
September 15, 2009 @ 1:06 pm
Let me correct you Chicago fans on a few things here:
First of all, and I don’t know why this has to be said over and over but… the Palace of AUBURN HILLS, is in AUBURN HILLS, Michigan. Auburn Hills is in Oakland County, north of detroit, and happens to be one of the wealthiest counties in the entire U.S. In fact it’s the second highest per capita income in the country behind New York County (Manhattan). This is where the players live as well. Nobody actually lives in Detroit anymore.
Second, so many of you are making a big deal of BG’s defensive ability, and how he won’t be able to guard the leagues premier guards. Well that’s fine, because it will be Rip playing them. BG will more than likely come off the bench.
Third, I understand supporting your team, but to say that the Bulls are superior to the Pistons, or that we’ll be your “doormat” is crazy. The only reason you won anything ever is because of Jordon. Your organization is mediocre at best (they paid something like $60 mil to Ben Wallace for christs sake). The Pistons are known for having one of the best organizations in the league. You DID luck into getting Rose because of the extremely small chance you have of winning the lottery and you did.
Oh and Moe Peep, this conversation has nothing to do with rappers, so your retarded for that, but newsflash: Kayne sucks. (I do like Twista tho). And I believe there is more better rappers to come out of Detroit then Chicago.
Matt Selke Said,
September 16, 2009 @ 11:58 am
Yeah for the rapper thing Detroit has you beat (Eminem, Obie Trice, Black Milk, Royce Da 5′ 9″, D12, Trick trick, etc.) but that isn’t the point. The Bulls are not even that good so why are you talking shit? I bet you the Bulls and Pistons will have similar seasons. And like in Chi-town? Have you ever been to Detroit? I ain’t talking down town either. Walk the streets and talk your Chi-town shit and see what happens to you.
Moe Peep Said,
September 16, 2009 @ 5:10 pm
D-Roit aint nothin in the rap game, we bringin Stylo Mass, Split city Spitterz all this real Midwest game and you talkin’ some punk called Trick trick, he probably ridin’ some…….
For real I’ll talk that stuff any where I roll, cos i comez correct when I’m anywhere be it uptown or in the hood.
oh, yeah CV and Gordon ain’t gonna stop your rot.