Comments on: The pros and cons of offseason tournaments http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/ Just another HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs weblog Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:27:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tod http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-532 Tod Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:20:54 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-532 NBA $$$ vs Individual rights. Hmmm, let the NBA ban their players from competing in FIBA tournaments and watch the fallout. Internationsl players love playing for their countries. It's not about money. Remember when Nash played for Canada and gave his coach money out of his pocket to share with the rest of the team so they wouldn't miss out on things??? Injuries happen anywhere. At least Parker didn't hurt himself while riding a moped... NBA $$$ vs Individual rights. Hmmm, let the NBA ban their players from competing in FIBA tournaments and watch the fallout. Internationsl players love playing for their countries. It’s not about money. Remember when Nash played for Canada and gave his coach money out of his pocket to share with the rest of the team so they wouldn’t miss out on things??? Injuries happen anywhere. At least Parker didn’t hurt himself while riding a moped…

]]> By: tresh http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-531 tresh Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:25:17 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-531 all i can say is people who said that a gold olympic medal or a world championship medal is under a nba ring don't know anything about international sports,u think that nba is the only place where basketball can be play....tsssssss...u guys will never understand the pride of a man who can win win something for his country the truth is that nba has the most money and is the best place for the best player in the world...and what else ??? u guys 'll never see people crying and and singing like international people that i saw in france during the world soccer cup in 1998, watching coreans ,japanese ,colombians,iranians people in the same stadium ,hoping for only one goal,cheerings for only one action ,singing all the time...u guys 'll never understand what i'm saying when i talk about passion and emotions,u guys only believe on victories and money insurance and blablabla...i worked one year in Philly and all i can say is i was so happy when i saw Iverson and co,but in my head i was dreaming about that one day nba will not be the best place for basketball,nba will not be the main goal for international players...that day we 'll have a true competition and that day u guys will trully understand what i say when i talk about national pride in basketball and emotions by watching ur national team having REAL difficulties and win at the end...or loose...this is sport,real sport when there is nothing written by advance ,when u can see a a game and u say "man we are pretty good but the other team is pretty good too,so watch the game and enjoy it" not a game where i'll know the result by advance because the true is that a very good US team with the best players will win so far against an argentinian team or a spanish team even with Gino or Gasol and that's so boring. So just open ur mind because in europe and and all over the world all that we want for basketball is the day were there we will be a real competition between ur guys and the rest of the world because in national sports there is no other joy,love ,big big emotions than crying ,shouting,singing kissing everobody in the street in ur town just because ur national team just had won the world championship !!! One day that 'll happen and that day...I'll LOVE THIS GAME MORE THAN EVER !!! all i can say is people who said that a gold olympic medal or a world championship medal is under a nba ring don’t know anything about international sports,u think that nba is the only place where basketball can be play….tsssssss…u guys will never understand the pride of a man who can win win something for his country the truth is that nba has the most money and is the best place for the best player in the world…and what else ??? u guys ‘ll never see people crying and and singing like international people that i saw in france during the world soccer cup in 1998, watching coreans ,japanese ,colombians,iranians people in the same stadium ,hoping for only one goal,cheerings for only one action ,singing all the time…u guys ‘ll never understand what i’m saying when i talk about passion and emotions,u guys only believe on victories and money insurance and blablabla…i worked one year in Philly and all i can say is i was so happy when i saw Iverson and co,but in my head i was dreaming about that one day nba will not be the best place for basketball,nba will not be the main goal for international players…that day we ‘ll have a true competition and that day u guys will trully understand what i say when i talk about national pride in basketball and emotions by watching ur national team having REAL difficulties and win at the end…or loose…this is sport,real sport when there is nothing written by advance ,when u can see a a game and u say “man we are pretty good but the other team is pretty good too,so watch the game and enjoy it” not a game where i’ll know the result by advance because the true is that a very good US team with the best players will win so far against an argentinian team or a spanish team even with Gino or Gasol and that’s so boring.
So just open ur mind because in europe and and all over the world all that we want for basketball is the day were there we will be a real competition between ur guys and the rest of the world because in national sports there is no other joy,love ,big big emotions than crying ,shouting,singing kissing everobody in the street in ur town just because ur national team just had won the world championship !!!
One day that ‘ll happen and that day…I’ll LOVE THIS GAME MORE THAN EVER !!!

]]> By: Greece http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-526 Greece Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:36:35 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-526 My friend it's clear to me that nba is the best basketball competition in our planet.I just commented and told my view about this huge theme and to make it clear i wanted to say that BECAUSE players are humans they must be left to do whatever they want and not being pressed by their teams to stay out of these competitions. i can see that many of you will tell me that because players are humans they have to understand their limitis and not going on great lenghts i totally agree with it. For me doctors view must have a great impact on this kind of decisions and keep players away from exaggerations but players must be the only judge of them selves My friend it’s clear to me that nba is the best basketball competition in our planet.I just commented and told my view about this huge theme and to make it clear i wanted to say that BECAUSE players are humans they must be left to do whatever they want and not being pressed by their teams to stay out of these competitions. i can see that many of you will tell me that because players are humans they have to understand their limitis and not going on great lenghts i totally agree with it. For me doctors view must have a great impact on this kind of decisions and keep players away from exaggerations but players must be the only judge of them selves

]]> By: Salaner http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-523 Salaner Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:35:44 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-523 >"Dude. US was winning with the college players before the Dream Teams. The Dream Teams were really all about popularizing the game and making it trully global. We do not need the NBA players to play in order to win in international competition." Ah, blissful ignorance. The last time the US won anything with college players was the 1986 World Championships - that's 23 years ago. Even with NBA players the US has lost the 2002 and 2006 Worlds and the 2004 Olympics. >”Dude. US was winning with the college players before the Dream Teams. The Dream Teams were really all about popularizing the game and making it trully global. We do not need the NBA players to play in order to win in international competition.”

Ah, blissful ignorance. The last time the US won anything with college players was the 1986 World Championships - that’s 23 years ago. Even with NBA players the US has lost the 2002 and 2006 Worlds and the 2004 Olympics.

]]> By: Greece http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-521 Greece Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:43:05 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-521 Players must be left to decide their future by them selves noboby can tell if you want to represent your country and your favourite colours.But unfortunately money determine everything in this this world and especially in the united states and all the traditions and ethics have been broken down... Players must be left to decide their future by them selves noboby can tell if you want to represent your country and your favourite colours.But unfortunately money determine everything in this this world and especially in the united states and all the traditions and ethics have been broken down…

]]> By: George J http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-520 George J Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:12:44 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-520 Dude. US was winning with the college players before the Dream Teams. The Dream Teams were really all about popularizing the game and making it trully global. We do not need the NBA players to play in order to win in international competition. Secondly, don't give me that crap that the NBA is all about money. Of course it is. It's a professional league. So, are all other professional leagues. The Olympics and world champtionships are all about money too. As for the guy who says that the NBA is about money and the world/euro champtionships are not I just have one thing to say: The national teams are not allowed to field all their professional soccer platers in the Olympics (only two over the age of 22 I believe is still the rule). So, I guess you can have exceptions when it comes to the other sports. Dude. US was winning with the college players before the Dream Teams. The Dream Teams were really all about popularizing the game and making it trully global. We do not need the NBA players to play in order to win in international competition.

Secondly, don’t give me that crap that the NBA is all about money. Of course it is. It’s a professional league. So, are all other professional leagues. The Olympics and world champtionships are all about money too.

As for the guy who says that the NBA is about money and the world/euro champtionships are not I just have one thing to say: The national teams are not allowed to field all their professional soccer platers in the Olympics (only two over the age of 22 I believe is still the rule). So, I guess you can have exceptions when it comes to the other sports.

]]> By: F-dizzle http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-519 F-dizzle Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:56:19 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-519 NBA=Job, $ Olymics=Passion, Pride Everybody has to get paid, so you go to work. You get promotions and work your way to the top, the NBA. After work you go home and spend your lesiure time enjoying the things you love; Playing for the love of the sport and supporting your country. NBA=Job, $
Olymics=Passion, Pride

Everybody has to get paid, so you go to work. You get promotions and work your way to the top, the NBA.
After work you go home and spend your lesiure time enjoying the things you love; Playing for the love of the sport and supporting your country.

]]> By: Andrew http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-518 Andrew Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:42:24 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-518 Quick thought here! What if the NBA players who choose to play outside the NBA, were told that if hurt their contracts would be voided. How many players (all super stars) from the past Olympics would given up millions on taking a chance to get hurt? I think the answers is zero. Quick thought here!

What if the NBA players who choose to play outside the NBA, were told that if hurt their contracts would be voided. How many players (all super stars) from the past Olympics would given up millions on taking a chance to get hurt? I think the answers is zero.

]]> By: Surujh http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-517 Surujh Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:04:38 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-517 Ok, so for all those people against having NBA players take part in these "dumb" and "meaningless" international tournaments. Let's see, then that means that TEAM USA would have never fielded Dream Teams, I, II and III. The USA would be relegated to sending collegiate players and players playing in the US minor leagues (who can play and would pose a certain threat to foreign competition), but would definitely diminish the USA's "dominance" over the world basketball stage. If you're willing for the USA to be looked at as a top 5 to top 10 basketball power as opposed to the clear cut #1, then ok...leave all NBA players out. If not, keep quiet. Ok, so for all those people against having NBA players take part in these “dumb” and “meaningless” international tournaments. Let’s see, then that means that TEAM USA would have never fielded Dream Teams, I, II and III. The USA would be relegated to sending collegiate players and players playing in the US minor leagues (who can play and would pose a certain threat to foreign competition), but would definitely diminish the USA’s “dominance” over the world basketball stage. If you’re willing for the USA to be looked at as a top 5 to top 10 basketball power as opposed to the clear cut #1, then ok…leave all NBA players out. If not, keep quiet.

]]> By: MrRocco http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/2009/08/06/the-pros-and-cons-of-offseason-tournaments/#comment-516 MrRocco Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:59:45 +0000 http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/narducci/?p=25#comment-516 Speaking from the bleacher perspective, the reduction of games in the NBA schedule would be a financial nightmare for us in the nose-bleeds. Taking two kids to the game, the cheap seats, already costs a weeks worth of groceries. I am including travel, parking, 1 drink, 1 item to eat, 1 inexpensive item which counts towards birthday/X-Mass. I would just love to be able to treat the kids to a floor game but I just can not afford it, never mind multiple games during the season. To cut the season games by 20% would increase seat costs by 30% at the very least since they have to make up for lost parking and concessestion (the real money makers) earnings. I have to say, it is extremely difficult for me to have any concerns for people earning over a million a year, at minimum, on whether they are tired or not. I am tired at 5:00 AM every day but I still have to go to work. How many ballers/owners/staff do the same day in and day out? In closing, my kids 'live' to go the one game a season and it is something I do not want to do but have to do for them because I love them. Speaking from the bleacher perspective, the reduction of games in the NBA schedule would be a financial nightmare for us in the nose-bleeds. Taking two kids to the game, the cheap seats, already costs a weeks worth of groceries. I am including travel, parking, 1 drink, 1 item to eat, 1 inexpensive item which counts towards birthday/X-Mass. I would just love to be able to treat the kids to a floor game but I just can not afford it, never mind multiple games during the season.

To cut the season games by 20% would increase seat costs by 30% at the very least since they have to make up for lost parking and concessestion (the real money makers) earnings. I have to say, it is extremely difficult for me to have any concerns for people earning over a million a year, at minimum, on whether they are tired or not. I am tired at 5:00 AM every day but I still have to go to work. How many ballers/owners/staff do the same day in and day out?

In closing, my kids ‘live’ to go the one game a season and it is something I do not want to do but have to do for them because I love them.

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