China madness
In a race, whether one walks or runs, all finish at the end. Sooner or later I had to learn what doing bad things to others would cause. Whether I learned it earlier or after death, I would have learned it. It would have been nice to learn it at, oh I don’t know, around 10. Yeah, 10 would have been a good age to learn it. But as it stands, it took a bit longer. That’s neither here or there. I try not to look back very often and absolutely love living for today.
Today I am still in China… Waiting for tomorrow. Ha! You have to experience a game in this league to really appreciate why I say that. One day, I’d love to discuss the fine points of basketball and its utter decimation in certain places. I’d love to brag about my numbers over here but I have some pride. I would say the only thing I concentrate on as far as individually, to apply my desire of self-betterment in this sport that does so much for me, is my field goal percentage. I couldn’t care less if I averaged 80 ppg here. However, when my 3P% is under 42, I am in a bad mood until it’s back up. So as far as basketball is concerned… that’s all I got.
You are more than welcome to check out the CBA website to enjoy for yourself but no one there considers it worthy to give readers an English viewing option. So good luck deciphering Chinese and enjoy!
Now, to the juice. I got texts from every fellow hooper I know, NBA staff people, family I haven’t heard from in months and Bugs Bunny all asking the same thing: WTF?
It came as a surprise to me, because people heard about it about two weeks after it happened. So by the time I saw it was reported everywhere even in Nigeria, I had forgotten it happened. In case anyone is totally baffled, I’m talking about the apparent attack on poor me by Chinese team captain and some of his boys. Seriously… It wasn’t that serious. I think the biggest guy might have weighed 180lbs. OK, I was trying to make it juicy…175lbs.
Anyway, I could give you tons of guesses about what spurned Super Mario and Pals to wait for me outside my locker room but I’m sure your guess would be as accurate as mine. Quite honestly I’m not totally sure. So rather than speculate on the causes, I’ll just give detail by detail the happenings and my thoughts in the middle. I can’t really give you the comical G-money version cuz I might just get detained. Why am I here? Sorry…
I come out of the locker room and take my 1-year-old girl and my 5-year-old off my wife’s hands and leave my wife, mother-in-law and 3-year-old walking behind me to leave the arena. At the exit I see Shanghai’s seemingly entire team and Mickey Mouse waiting at the exit and looking at me as if I handed them a $1,000 dinner bill. Now, I remember getting into it with Minnie on the court. But I would hardly call it an altercation. I’ve had worse altercations blowing my nose.
Anyway, to avoid any issues with the fam there, I asked if they were waiting for something. I guess their English wasn’t that good. Because they took it as their invitation. I really thought it was a joke. You know, one of those European soccer belly bumping shows of testosterone? Then, when a full water bottle was hurled at me but my son ducked (lucky man; I don’t mean my son), I immediately handed him and the baby over and dropped my bag. I directed the fam back into the arena away from Mickey and friends and faced the fun bunch.
Now, initially there were guards and they parted like the red sea. Cool beans! This ought to be fun… Thanks, guys. 50 guards… 15 Shanghai Sharks. The guards should have been charged admission. OK. Now it’s me and them. Mickey to my left, Huey, Duey and Louis in center, Minnie and Scrooge to my right and Goofy and his friends in back. My first instinct was to absolutely shatter Minnie’s jaw. I mean, she was standing a perfect two feet from my right hand and if I was going to get jumped, I figured someone might as well be mortally wounded. But then I remembered. I’m in China, where if you go to jail no one, I mean absolutely no one outside of a Chinese government official can get you out.
Thank God I was reminded of Chinese laws like literally days before the incident. Did you hear about the five Puerto Ricans that changed dollars for counterfeit money here in China? They are still in jail and pleas by the U.S. State Department ain’t helping. So knowing what I know and what I’ve experienced here, two things went through my mind: Stay on your feet and take it. They’re neither big or strong enough to actually injure me. And two, don’t hurt any of them.
Believe me. 15 on 1 or not, if I had hurt one Chinese, I’d have been fined more, suspended longer and depending on how bad I’d have hurt someone, they would have put me in jail. Sorry guys, can’t go to jail in China with the family there. Shiiii. I can’t go to jail in China with the family not there! Do you know even though it was all on tape, they still questioned me as to attempt to punish me as well? You should have heard the questions I got from the CBA board.
“Well, were you in a ready to fight stance?”
No, I stuck my face out like a mistletoe and told ‘em all Merry freakin’ Christmas… Kiss me.
The question I posed was, were they looking for a reason to punish me too or do you want the story?
Back to the fun… With some teaching, I sprawled back and used two of their own guys as a wall and took my deep tissue massage like a man. Head down, arms extended, legs sprawled back pushing the crowd back with two cornered walls as a base. 30 seconds and who knows how many pats to my shoulders and back it was over.
I must admit, when they first came at me, I thought they were joking. When it was over and I looked up, I knew they were joking. Well, maybe not. But it spurned a chuckle out of me. Which in turn started Mickey into a Mariah Carey Tirade. It was actually the only American teammate of their own Sharks, Dajuan Tate, that broke it up. Yes, just him. No one of them really wanted to fight me. They wanted to let off some steam.
Well, I’m glad I could be of service. I wasn’t angry, injured or distraught. My wife was angry, mother-in-law was scared and my kids are now racists. But other than that, I’m fine. To this day I still love Disney and all the shows. I hold no ill will toward them and was on record saying I had no desire for them to be punished. In actuality, I feel embarrassed for them. Mickey especially. To me, it was more insulting to him to proceed with a fight in front of a man’s kids. But you know what? That, culturally, is how we are perceived here. Remember the story I told you about the Chinese fan screaming out “yoo monkee” to Lorenzo Coleman? That’s a microcosm of the experience. One day, friends… It goes back to what I said to start this. Whether you learn now or tomorrow, we will all learn.
This blog was just the bland version of the whole flower petal shower on Gabe. Can’t really tell it how I want but I’m sure you can guess. I’ll just say this. I couldn’t get beat to hell by many more North Africans. This was funny, believe me.
For anyone who comes here, Bonzi, it’s best you learn the culture quickly. Do not give them a reason. Just to give you a picture… If you get in a local’s face, it will quickly be broken up, sometimes maliciously. But (and this is a phenomenom that has held true since I came here in 2003) if the two adversaries are American? Well, pull up a seat, let us test the girth of each leviathon in battle, ha ha ha. They will let two Americans hash it out for a while before it is separated, if separated.
My first coach here in 2003 told me he studied human anatomy in college and through his studies he learned (Bantu) people are made only for certain sports. He said, basketball, football and other power sports were those for Bantus but a sport like, “Tennis for example,” he said was made for white and yellow. I didn’t get offended. Ignorance can’t offend me. I just smiled and said, “Venus and Serena.” And he thought, smiled and shook his finger at me half embarrassed, half laughing with a steroetypical, “very good.”
It’s all good, though. Any assumptions of me getting all angry and racially insulting can go out the window. I still appreciate all cultures. If anything, the thing that offers me the most frustration is having to deal with this nonsense at my age. You won’t get it unless you experience the 21-year-old kid getting paid $500 a month that they put in to guard the 40-point scoring NBA caliber player. The kid wants to prove himself and the coaches and refs want to see their next NBA prospect play you. They can’t and won’t call every overzealous, borderline career-ending foul. Otherwise you’d score 100. So they let him beat you like an orphan panda until it gets ridiculous. Which is all good when you’re 25 and a good player. But when you’ve worked to this level of play at 30? It gets old, especially on a 2-12 team. It’s better to play in Europe. No one there wants to fight anymore. Everyone just wants to make money, play good, fundamental basketball and wear skinny jeans while saying, “bon giorno” to that girl walking down the street that you swore you saw on model TV the other day.
Unfortunately for me, my plan of signing early in Europe didn’t work out and after NBA cuts all Euro jobs are filled. Sorry, I wasn’t passing up a vet camp with Jerry Sloan for anything. So if I had to do it again, I would. Yes, I knew they had 15 contracts before I went and didn’t care. I went there for longer-lasting reasons. The Chinese say the journey is the reward. I say, that’s if you survive the journey.
Until next time, don’t boycott Disney and its characters on my behalf. It’s all good. We all know the possible results in a different forum.
JVG… You’re the man! Next time you see me, please take notice to the “Will work for Prayers,” sign on my back.
ShalObama.
BrianBoitono Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 8:59 pm
Yess!! ive been waiting for your side on this story.i comment often on your articles, sometimes positive sometimes not. that means one thing that i think most people will agree on. unlike most articles, your readable top to bottom. Your son is now racist. hahahaha im sitting at work in my Cube laughing uncontrolably. entertaining article as usual Gabe. Glad you were not hurt Best wishes to you and yours during the hollidays.
Big Family Christmas » Blog Archive » HoopsHype.com NBA Blogs - Gabe Muoneke » China madness Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
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JB Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 10:49 pm
Yo Gabe.
Big fan of the blog and I must say I enjoyed your latest entry, and yes, I was a little worried when I heard that you were caught in an “altercation” in China.
Being an Asian-American, its a damn shame when I hear about people back in Asia act out like they do. And as much as I love my people (my parents included), Asians tend to be some of the most racists people alive. Just an example of this, until Hines Ward did this thing in the Super Bowl a couple of years back, anyone who was considered Half-Black, Half-White, Half-Anythingelse but Korean weren’t even considered to be citizens in South Korea. South East Asia was also scared out of their pants when they Obama began to look like a possible candidate for the U.S. They gots a long way to go thats for sure.
Either way, keep ballin’ and best of luck on this season Gabe. I hope you can still sign with a team and get paid doin’ what you love. But on another note, as you can obviously tell, not all Asians are racists either. Go Longhorns!
Greg Van Voorhis Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 11:30 pm
What an amazing read!
Thanks to Hoopshype for allowing athletes such as Gabe to blog some thoughts and experiences from their day to day lives and career overseas and on the road. There were some powerful lessons from Gabe’s blog that can be abstracted and taught to all. I am a teacher in the Bronx and I will be sharing this piece with my Advisory class.
Kudos to you, Gabe, for maintaining composure and realizing that some battles are best left unfought. I wish you could come speak to my class about what being a “real man” is actually about.
Much Respect!
Greg Van Voorhis
The Bronx School of Law and Finance
Lawrence Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 11:36 pm
Hey,
I have worked as reporter for DUNK for years in China. Players such as Bonzi and Gabe are considered as “foreign aids” to help Chinese teams compete one and other in their league. Many of these foreign players are constantly exposured cultural differences here in China. Some of them fit in, but most of them do not. If fact, due to mis-communication among them and their Chinese teammates and coaches, they often feel a sense of discrimination. In return, they display aggressive behaviours in games, albeit some behaviour can be considered as over-aggressive and not necessary. In many occasions, these players find themselves in a rather hostile environment. Thus, I strongly recommend these players working our their emotional problems and communication problems first with their teammates and coaches. Moreover, they should go out and get to know their surrouding better. Do not take one-sided stories. Get to know things better before your make a judgement. Sure, China’s legal systems have flaws, but who doesn’t, and counterfeiting is federal/felony anywhere on earth. Chinese legal system has every reason to detain and question these suspects. I, persosonally, believe that if in any way that you transgress local laws, you must face the music of local justice system. And frankly, I have never heard foreign suspects being tortured or treatly in many non-humanitarian way. Good luck, Gabe, you have a lot to learn about this culture, country and even your own team.
Nate from NYC Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
Gabe, sorry man, but you’re a racist prick!
What’s with all the black guys lashing out ever since Obama won…?
Barack Obama Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
Such a racial charged blog with false american culture superimacy. Wonder how other part of the world looks at you when your soldier raped that Iraqi child in front of her family then burn and kill her entire family. Yeah now you can laugh at my english and spalling too.
Winkstrap Said,
December 16, 2008 @ 11:50 pm
what a disgrace
get your family away from that BS dude
you should play basketball in australia next year
their league is shutting down after this season and will be revamped next year
you should ask corey homicide williams about life in australia
doyouwantmore Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 1:39 am
Can’t believe those fools tried to move on you when you were with your family! Good on you for not letting it get out of hand and for taking the high road Gabe. Chinese Prison-League MVP doesn’t look great on the resume!
Xie
Luke Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 2:36 am
Gabe, you’ll be the first hoops man who plays a game in Antarctica lol… Keep up the good work!
Jeff Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 3:05 am
Hahahahaha so funny, man. I laughed extremely hard when you bragged on and on about how they cant hurt you. Oh my god, I needed this joke of a post. Gabe, give up basketball man, become a comedian instead.
Benoit Benjamin Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:52 am
Dude, that’s a nice story. Good thing the family nor you got hurt, and your reaction to all this is even better. Man I’m so pissed the ASVEL screwed with you. Keep ballin, man.
haywood workman Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 8:03 am
Gabe, I’m gonna call it like it was, and say that sh!t was f%cked up! I’m from Indianapolis and all I can say is, those guys should be lucky you are not Ron Artest or Steve Jackson! You were def the bigger man, but you should’ve at least broken some ribs. What is gonna be the detterent rom this happening again? What is most f%cked up, is the fact that you got jumped, and knew you couldn’t fight back without being punished. Man the world is too big to endure ignorance like this in 2009. The homothugs who jumped on you in front of your family should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. That was probably a very traumatic experience for your kids. All I can say is, it sounds like these guys were very soft and I don’t respect their Shaolin technique…lol
showydisplay Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 8:10 am
What it do Gabe! I’m in H-Town and I have followed you since UT days. I think one time you were in camp with the Rox if I’m not mistaken. Anyway hold it down out there and as a black male who has been to jail more than I would like to admit you acted very intelligently and it is refreshing to see how you handled the situation, took your fam out of harms way and ultimately avoided anything (JAIL) that could separate you from them. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Ken Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 9:38 am
Gabe, I enjoy your blogs and you definitely have a good talent for writing. However, I have to agree with Lawrence. I have seen many American b-ball players overseas up close and I know for a fact that most of them blame others when things go bad. It’s always the coach’s fault or the team’s fault or the country’s fault.
I wish you would’ve given us more details about what actually happened on the court that prompted the other team to wait for you after the game. Maybe it was just a small misunderstanding that could’ve been handled better… like with a sincere apology. These incidents only perpetuate the “Ugly American” label that is so prevalent in Europe and Asia.
Gabe, please don’t make it seem like it was just the other team’s fault for this incident. It takes two to tango. I’m sure that you meant no harm, but you must’ve done something. A little ounce of contrition would’ve been given you a lot more credibility.
elephant Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 10:11 am
Civilized posters like Ken and Lawrence suggest it must be our hero’s ignorance, intolerance and aggression that created the problem. Answer me this:
Just what situation would justify a large group of men laying in wait for a single man?
It’s you two, not Gabe, that need to review your bias.
Andre Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 10:28 am
Hey Man, IS it possible you can come work out or try out for the Raptors?? the NEED a someone like you man.
As for China. Their government should be ashamed. They are very disrespectful. But im glad you did it the christian way and turned your cheek. You get More respect for that. Just you know, when you see them again, i dunno, maybe a nice in-and-out, two steps, and a leaning one handed dunk. if you know what i mean
BFF Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 10:31 am
dont let it bother u bro, its not much different here in the states either.(as i am sure u know) they’re just better at hiding it…..Stay up!!!!!
David Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 10:41 am
Maybe you should hire James Leija as your bodyguard
dnice Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 10:43 am
gabe,
i like you as a writer and player but after awhile it may be time to evaluate WHY you always seem to get into confrontations, no? I’m rather sure your volatile personality has kept you out of the league more than your skill set. You can beef about being more talented than guys like Madsen, Malik Rose, G Buckner, etc –but the reality is a coach wants a low-maintinence/selfless person at the end of the bench.
d
mo ke Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:12 am
“Mickey to my left, Huey, Duey and Louis in center, Minnie and Scrooge to my right and Goofy and his friends in back. My first instinct was to absolutely shatter Minnie’s jaw. I mean, she was standing a perfect two feet from my right hand and if I was going to get jumped, I figured someone might as well be mortally wounded. But then I remembered. I’m in China, where if you go to jail no one, I mean absolutely no one outside of a Chinese government official can get you out.”
this part was so racist, you should really be ashamed of yourself as a person of color yourself.
Chris D. Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Great read. I just want to say though that I am shocked some of the comments are critical of Gabe. He was simply leaving the building with his family, then ended up with a team of players beating on him, and he still did not throw a single punch. He even goes on to say that he harbors no ill will towards any of these guys.
In a statement put out from Chinese Basketball Association officials. After reviewing VIDEO evidence.
“The incident was abominable and serious in nature, casting a terrible influence over society and seriously harming the CBA’s brand and reputation,” the CBA said in a statement.”"
You want both sides of the story? There it is. That’s what Chinese Officials had to say about the matter. Two players are to serve long suspensions, including Liu Wei, captain of the national team. The team was also fined.
I didn’t feel like this article was lashing out. The ESPN article and comments from Chinese officials made it seem like he may have had his life at stake. Instead of lashing out, it seemed to me that he was trying to downplay the whole incident.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3746883
Check out the article before you try to lash out. Best of luck Gabe!
Mark Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:50 am
Gabe, thanks for the words. I had heard about this a bit ago and thought it sounded pretty dicey. You did a great job in describing the situation and letting us know what was up in a variety of ways between the lines.
As this stream is likely going to get crowded soon (as well as hot) I’ll add my two cents early. To the hoops fans out there (and this includes fans who actually think they know something about being a player) there is essentially NOTHING you can do on a court that deserves to have a posse of people waiting for you to pound you while you are with your family. I can’t help but note the critics who’ve posted so far ignore one fact (among many); that Gabe’s kids were in danger. As an ancient culture that values family overwhelmingly it speaks volumes that Gabe was given the respect of a creature, not a human being. But so far the critics presume Gabe must be the malefactor because he’s black (racism) American (a possibly justified position these days, though NOTHING to do with basketball) or that he’s a Black American Basketball Player Who should know his place in a beautiful culture he hasn’t bothered to understand…..
When you can play and no-one can stop you, you get beat up. When you are a competitor who LIKES TO WIN who can’t be stopped and you get hammered every time you move you tend not to be nice as you play, no matter how much you hold back. But this stuff happens on the court. A one on one issue off the court might be predictable when competitive men mixed with pride and physical power come into play. BUT.
Jumping someone as a posse in front of his women, family, and children doesn’t translate well regardless of the alphabet you try to use.
Keep the faith Gabe. As a Cracker from the Hood I sincerely hope you keep representin’. And stay professional.
And come home safe.
Spiral Galaxy Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 12:31 pm
hey gabe
yo dude, you did the absolute best thing.
its ashame that those clowns would actually attack you while you were with wife, kids and family. i am not racist but there is no doubt that asians have a low opinion toward black people that is very disturbing. they have been known to be racist for many years. i mean what makes them think they are so great. the great wall of china ?(give me a freaking break!) to me, they are a joke albeit a bad one.
nonetheless, i am glad you and yours were unharmed and i am glad you weren’t locked up abroad! stay safe and get the fu*k out of china asap….
Dj Quest Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
So many clowns on this. One man gets jumped and it must be something he did to earn an attempted but whipping??? Please if Gabe was a white woman who was beat upon by a group of chinese or (gasp) Bantu women after a league game this would be world news. No one would say “she had it coming”. So all the cats on here talking that “Gabe, you need to evaluate your actions”(said with zero base in ones voice and with a nasal tone) need to SAVE IT.
Gabe, glad to hear you made it out ok and that you didn’t snap anyone’s neck in the process of protecting yourself and your family from a bunch of talentless pricks who can’t hoop without genetic alterations (Yao).
To quote the great ICE Cube
“Stay off his D*Ck”
Kipper75 Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
what a joke, he probably really ticked off the locals and was ready to get his a$$ handed to him yet brags about how they’re lucky that there wasn’t a fight. I work with a lot of Chinese and most of them have been training in the martial arts as children since it’s a part of their culture. These guys are pro athletes there, don’t tell me they don’t know any karate or kung fu! Without your gun and crew we all know you’d be nothing yank lol.
Farouq Obama aka Fux Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
Beautiful story my dude. The only thing that remained was some Triads coming to your home later at night and asking for you to fork over 50% of your pay because Mickey was a member and you somehow missed the Dragon tattoed between his index and thumb. Your Boy Hamon Jones has tooken a liking to Terrell Owens and is Owens-Purse Carrier now that Hamon is at home collecting a check because his cancerous demeanor could be a detriment to the lowly Bucks of Milwaukee.
Peace Holmes
Osahon Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
Lawrence, Nate, Ken, and the clown who called himself Barack Obama:
Go Suck One
NerdSuperfl Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 3:52 pm
Great entry!
I really love this blog and i hope you´ll keep it coming;
Anyway: wish u and your fam a great holiday season!
@ some weird comments
Racism is easy to understand. Your the good one, (insert nationality/race/gender/religion/etc) here) are the bad ones … so racists are mostly stupid people;
There stupid people all over teh world, so u´ll find racists all over the world;
Gabe´s blog isn´t about racism nor is he a racist, even he´s “american” and some us-soldiers raped … wtf, are some guys in the internet “thinking”.
sam i am Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:07 pm
Hold your head Gabe. Some of the people posting on here are very ignorant as to the intricacies involved with basketball and american players playing in foreign lands. First, the guy Lawrence gets very little respect from me because he doesn’t sound like he ever played over seas and doesn’t understand that no matter what transpired on the court, there is no justification for going after a player after a game when they are with their family. I have written on and played ball overseas and can tell you that there is an undercurrent of hostility against american reinforcers who are unstoppable. It often rears its head in agressive physical actions often accompanied by racism by opposing fans and teams. I’ve kicked it with Gabe in Puerto Rico a bunch of times when he played there and the guy is stand up and can play. Gabe is very physical and at times confrontational on the court. His size can be imposing and with his demonstrative deamenor, he can be intimidating to opponents. With that, I say that nothing can justify their act in attacking him. NOTHING! hE CAN PISS THEM OFF, FOULD HARD, WHATEVER. But you do not attack someone with their family. Lawrence, learn a thing or two about playing in a foreign country, not writing about it. You can study it all you want, but until you are on the floor in a hostile competitive environment where there is a racist undertone, you cannot fully appreciate the situation. You may be right in terms of players not respecting the culture and local customs, which is very offensive. However, in the case at hand, your comments are well off and you sound like someone who was never a REAL ballplayer. Fights and altercations happen even after games. But it is considered cowardice, in any country across the globe, to jump someone with ompteen guys when they have their children, mother, and wife with them. There is not act to justify that. I don’t know what Gabe did and am not exonerating his culpability in this (whatever it was), but the form of recourse far outweighed the attempted punishment. Good luck Gabe. Maybe I’ll see you in Puerto Rico if you play this year. My boy got traded to Arecibo but I’ll be hanging out in San Juan when I’m there. Best wishes to you and your family.
Premier Wen Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
As a white guy who enjoyed living in Beijing and Shanghai for 5 years I support what Gabe says about Chinese happily watching two “laowai”/foreigners go at each other…a foreigner vs a local will quickly find himself piled on by passers by. You’ll get the isht kicked out of you and then get charged by the cops with some ridiculous BS. You won’t get thrown in jail but they’ll ask you for $$$ to make it go away. Gabe’s right: under no circumstances other than death do you fight a local guy. Further those “guards” are teenagers from the countryside with no training and get paid like $2 a day so no one can expect them to step in and prevent the stars of the local team from attacking a foreign devil (even though he’s with his toddlers.) China’s got a beautiful side and an ugly side, hopefully you’ll see more of the good stuff from now on.
Dear Lawrence: As a reporter you should know to focus on the facts of the story instead of chastising a former NBA player for not being able to speak Mandarin fluently and for being culturally insensitive.
The General Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
Gabe,
Glad your family was unhurt, and that you are not languishing in a Chinese jail. It took big stones not to beat the hell out of the Shanghai Sharks.
I just found the blog, and I am a fan from your days at Texas. Good luck to you and yours.
Regards,
TG
Character Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:47 pm
Gabe,
It’s unfortunate that you had to make this a race issue. This didn’t happen to you because you are black. This could have happened to anyone of any race anywhere else in the world but you colored your story with negative jokes and racially demeaning humor. By doing so you encourage hate whether you intend to or not. You even warn Bonzi about their culture based on your strange example. Then you try to make yourself feel better and look innocent at the end by saying that you’re not “angry or racially insulting…” and “still appreciate all cultures” as if that makes everything you said ok. The top 3 nba jerseys sold in China don’t even include Yao’s. How could anyone accuse the whole nation of discrimination.
I grew up in a predominately black neighborhood. I can recall so many incidences where I’ve been jumped, robbed, had our house egged. I’ve endured constant chingchong and dog eating jokes all childhood long, but that has not made me a racist. I have friends of all races and would never write/say anything negative involving race. Your blog post would be the equivalent of me writing about my experiences referencing jokes with Tito, Michael, and Jermaine or Shaka Zulu. I’m sorry your family had to witness such an awful event. Nobody’s kids should have to see something like that. Please don’t teach hatred to your kids. If you really do rock Obama and God, then teach them to never judge an entire race by the actions of a few.
Sam Zia Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 4:48 pm
Just stay safe out there, brother… Don’t let people of ill-will change the good in you and your family. Keep playing hard, and get your ass back here safe. Peace.
big sky Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
Is Mickey Mouse chinese? I think he didnt name names to keep it kosher. If you think this entry inspires hate like it or not, he got jumped by a bunch of men from china like it or not, who used their country’s bigoted libereties to try to beat down a player in their league. he wasn’t kicked out of the game. whatever he did to piss them off happened during the game. it was an american that broke it up. explain to me how you guys would blog this otherwise. wow, cowards of truth.
Stephen (not Curry) Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 8:29 pm
Gabe,
I was just at the Texas-Rice game recently, and while watching some dude weakly dunk the thought popped into my head, “I miss Gabe Muoneke! He could get people going.” It’s true, you were such a fun player to watch, and probably the fiercest dunker and most physical forward I’ve seen in my 10 years of heading to the Erwin Center. Now TrueHoop has a link to your blog and this disconcerting incident; weird timing.
Good luck with everything, and congratulations on being a parent. Your old fans in Austin remember you fondly.
brofmfa Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 9:42 pm
Keep up man, don’t forget to get your paycheck, take care your self and you fam are your mission wherever you go. Love you both as a bball player and a person. Always looking forward to read your new page
Ignarus Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:41 pm
Great post. You handled the situation with an almost inhuman maturity with your eyes on the prize the whole time - walking out of there with your family and liberty intact. I have a hard time trying to explain to some folks how responding with fury to instigators can often only bring you trouble, so thanks for the example - it can be hard to see where the real courage lies.
Keep safe and thanks again for sharing.
Daniel Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:45 pm
So is Gabe avg. 31 pts a game? thats what i got out of the cba website
Jared Said,
December 17, 2008 @ 11:52 pm
This incident could have happened in any country. He basically says as much a few times, even referencing a worse incident he had playing in Africa. Anyone who read that Gabe was being somehow racist or culturally ignorant must’ve missed the article in its entirety. He didn’t even name the jokers who attacked him. Giving them joke names is not only fair, but it’s freakin hilarious.
Let me ask you this: what would the public response be if Yi or Yao was mugged by–say… the Bobcats?
Lawrence, Ken…. just…. ugghhh. Don’t be such a wuss. Please.
Jdub Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 1:42 am
Wow…what a story. I am glad to hear you are fine, but I do wonder something. Were they really that weak? Surely not. And you do make such a joke of the situation, but why would you stay there. Pull a Sam Cassell and come dominate the YMCA league or something. As for Europe, there’s got to be at least 1 team with a roster spot that would want to throw money at you. And there’s no NBA team wanting you either? Who’s your agent, cuz you might not be a 20 year old putting up these numbers, but you still could help a team with skill off the bench. Call up Boston or San Antonio. Best wishes to your NBA career
Mark Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 2:39 am
JB, the most racist people are from Australia. not Asia.
Jake B Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 4:21 am
I don’t think Gabe’s making it about him being black…he’s making it about him being a foreigner. He’s trying to show the struggles of being a foreigner, a newcomer. I think he makes his point.
If anyone thinks Gabe was wrong in this, I ask you this: why did only Chinese players get fined in this? Especiall since one of the players is one of Yao’s best friends from China? Sounds like he’s Chinese basketball’s “Golden Boy”, and I’m pretty sure they’d try to protect him over Gabe (no offense, Gabe.)
A group of guys attacking one guy…with his family. That’s pathetic. Basketball’s an emotional game. Whether you play pick up, rec or professionally, it’s a basic rule of thumb that what happens on the court, stays on the court. Trash talking, cheap shots: it stays on the court til the next game…not in the parking garage after the game.
mdb123 Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 4:41 am
jesus man maybe you should try a different league in a country that doesnt want you to fail
Legend Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 7:25 am
Just what situation would justify a large group of men laying in wait for a single man? (Lawrence)
Lawrence, you can’t either totally accept what Gabe wrote as The Truth. Otherwise we should literally believe that Minnie, Mickey Mouse and Goofy were there. It is his point of view, and it is subjective.
I find the fact that professional basketball players accept to play in countries where they are paid big bucks and then criticize that country very amusing. What if Nowitzki, or Ginobili, or Pachulia criticized the U.S. law enforcement system?
I am sure we would not like it one bit.
Dan Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 8:07 am
That was brilliant dude - great writeup!
Glad alls well!
Lawrence Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 9:54 am
What’s up Gabe! This is Lawrence, Roland’s brother from H-town. You probably don’t remember me, but way back in the day we used to hoop at Emmott elementary. We used to ride our bikes up there and play until night time.
Well I got this article from a friend and it sounds like it’s going good over there in China. That’s awesome man! All those days practicing w/ your bro one-on-one in the dead of winter sure helped fuel the drive and desire for the game. Tell Nick and Valerie I said wassup!
Take care man,
Lawrence
Ricecake Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Gabe,
sorry your family had to go through that. I hope you are a big enough man to understand and share with your kids that they shouldn’t be racists because of incidents like this. In fact, Asia’s a pretty big place even if you don’t like being in China. Also, read Character’s post. There are a lot of us who endured a lot of crap growing up around AfAm’s in sports and in school. You have a chance to use your experience over there to help change stereotypes back here… or perpetuate them.
God bless you and your fam.
RC
crs Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
Gabe,
Making fun of someone’s accent makes you look like a fool. This mockery is only done by Americans.
Remember, people with accents speak more languages then you and will always one-up you.
mock Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 2:22 pm
You stated now your son is racist because of this incident?
Maybe you should raise him up right and let him know these were just a few people that don’t represent billions of people. C’mon your black you know what it feels like to have such hate.
Also, how do you know this incident was racial? Maybe your the racist and your son is growing up like you!!!
Chevo Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 4:19 pm
I saw the vid of the oncourt incident. the video angle was bad but from what it looked like, Cai (who looks to be a teenager) was walking away when Gabe sucker punched him to the side of the face. Cai fell to the ground immediately, got up and into Gabe’s face with some words.
but from this condescending blog entry (I’d say with downright racial overtones and culturally condescending) and the vid combined, it look to be far more two sided than most people are led to believe.
The first time I heard about the offcourt inicdent, I thought that had it been true, the Chinese players alone acted attrociously but it looks like they are not the only ones that behaved that way.
Chevo Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTc0NTE3NTI=.html
At the 3:58-4:01 mark you can see Gabe clearly throw a punch at the unaware Cai who looked to be looking away. the punch either landed on Cai’s chest, neck, or face but it’s not clear.
JC Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 6:05 pm
Frankly, the Shanghai sharks players are wrong and disgraceful for fighting a guy 10 to 1. However confrontations are never instigated by only one-side so Gabe is not innocent as it seems.
As an American that have worked/lived in many different countries, I must say we are the most obnoxioius of all cultures. The way we are pampered here in America makes us think we are kings and can do anything wherever we want.
Different people have different cultures and we all need to adapt to our surroundings. At end of the day, you are getting paid VERY GOOD money to play basketball and that’s the bigger picture. If you don’t adapt, they find someone else.
Condemning the entire Chinese/White/Black/etc. race by the actions of a few is stupid. No one is in the position to judge anything/anyone until they have been put into that situation themselves.
There is a reason why some talented players never stay in one place more than a year. If you are being hated by one situation then it is excusable, but when everywhere you go deems you a cancer then you have to take a look in the mirror. When you live in someone else’s country, it’s their rules or else. If you don’t like it, leave and go back to the good ‘ol USA and play in the D-league and get paid $20,000 a year vs $40,000 a month.
From my experience of watching Chinese basketball games in person, I have often heard American players shout explotives to Chinese players and referees in English. Majority of the players can’t understand so they abuse that. I believe the main player involved with Gabe (Cai) might have went to school and lived in the States. Maybe he understood all those explotives and responded accordingly?
The economy is tough and people don’t have jobs, just be glad you are getting paid handsomely playing a game.
Spoon Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 6:23 pm
This is off subject but amusing to me.
I need to mention that China is the gold pot for non-NBA caliber basketball players right now. The financial crisis is hitting Europe hard and players are being released left and right out there with “Guaranteed” contracts.
Bonzi Wells just signed in China for $50,000/month plus bonuses while he did not get a single offer close to that in Europe.
As someone who has worked in an NBA front office before, I am actually stupified by the lack of knowledge these fat wallet Chinese teams are doing. They have no idea about the quality of players and the market in general, they just throw money at people like it’s free.
These people who run basketball teams are plain DUMB. The evil American agents tells them so and so are “NBA” players and demands big money. Guess what, NBA players would be on an NBA team right now, not out of a job. Former NBA players played in the league five years ago and players who attend training camp are not NBA players.
IS IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLE FACT THAT “You are not an NBA player unless you are CURRENTLY on an NBA team?” There is a reason why these players are not on an NBA rosters right now, do some damn research. Stop rewarding scumbag agents!
I am actually saddened by the CBA’s decision to fined and suspend only the Chinese players but not Gabe when it clearly showed he punched the kid during the game with a cheapshot. This actually seems like the CBA sucking up to the American foreign players by selling out their own.
Michael Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 6:42 pm
There is nothing in this post that I could consider racist. Gabe was making fun of the people who tried to jump him and then described a negative attitude prevalent in China that allowed it to happen. Just because someone talks about a culture as a whole doesn’t mean those comments are automatically racist. For example, Americans in general are dishonest people compared to the rest of the world. For someone to say that doesn’t mean they hate Americans. They’re pointing out differences in cultures, whether it’s positive or negative.
I don’t think anyone can say for sure what these people’s motivations were, but the fact that practically the whole team was ready to jump in, along with the facts that the guards ignored the responsibilities of their job and another american was the only one willing to break up the fight implies clear racism on the part of the Chinese. I think it’s naive to dismiss racism as a possible motivation or at least part of the equation. The U.S. has a culture that tries to snuff out racism, or at least limit it’s effects. China, like many places, does not have the same attitude. The fact is that this doesn’t happen in the U.S., and if it did happen there would be mass outrage, not to mention the fact that security would be separating the players as soon they got close.
baller-I-am Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 6:54 pm
Gabe is THE highest paid player in the CBA and leading everyone chinese or Americans in scoring. You know he is hated! He is a physical player and some can’t handle that. As a fellow overseas baller I know life is not always easy overseas. But Gabe keep yo head up laughing all the way to the bank. Hope to see you back on Europe where you belong!
baller-I-am Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 7:17 pm
To chevo and all you non hoopers talking noise……You have no idea how dirty the Chinese players are. When I played in china I got hurt almost each game. The refs don’t call sh!t for foreigners because we are made of steel. After a while you get hurt bad enough and you retaliate with a punch or an elbow not caring about the consequences. Enough is enough. CBS clean up house cause the players in your league are nasty!
Lee Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 10:01 pm
Can’t blame your kids for being racists after that.
I’m Chinese and growing up in America has made me a racist towards blacks, whites, and Hispanics.
L4 Said,
December 18, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
Hey Gabe,
I was reading an article on angryasianman.com and found out about this incident. I was so shocked when I read it was you. I’m glad that you are ok. I’m Asian and it disheartens me that this happened to you and your family. I hope your kids realize that not all asians are like this.
Good luck in your career. Miss watching you playing ball in Austin. Hook’em Horns!
Asian Longhorn
patrick Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 12:52 am
these things happen all the time, racist or not racist, don;t blame it on the whole nation… get over it man
Lawrence Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 1:46 am
Hey
I am not sure if anyone gets to read this again, but here goes.
Well, I never justified the fact that waiting with a gang of ppl for a fight is righteous. Neither did i justify it with Gabe’s situation of his whole family thing.
In fact, as a reporter working in a foreign country such as China, I understand players’ frustration and often confusion on court and off court both with others and with the culture. In Gabe’s situation, after talking to a ex-college of mine, i got to know the situation better. According my ex-college, Gabe was over-aggressive on the court against Liu Wei and Co. There were bumps here and there, and Gabe was actually the who started everything on court. In a way, Gabe was not at all professional on court dealing with skirmishes among players. There is a difference between good hastle and ill-intended physical aggression. This surely shows that Gabe has only described half of the story in favor of himself. A story that is choronologically flawed of missing reasons for the incident. Sure, it is extremely non sportman of Liu Wei to assault Gabe physically and by all means a showing of disgusting and barbarian act, but at same time, Gabe was also acted unprofessional to begin with. A coin has two sides. I appreciate Gabe’s humorous attempt at his side of story. However, honoring himself with an incomplete yet misleading story is simply dissapointing and confusing to many readers. Not to mention a clear, biased and even racist article filled with intended racial and discriminating comments. Gabe, if you ever get a chance to read this, you should understand that CBA not only punished Liu Wei and Co, due to their outrageous behavior, but also showing league’s initiative to protect foreign players. Perhaps this might be the only reason that you are not subject to your actions in the game.
p.s. I am a reporter, not a player. However, I played in NCAA in my yrs just to clear that I have a good idea of being a player.
Thank you
Vince P Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 3:28 am
Throwing a punch in the game should have got Gabe tossed. Blame the refs for missing that.
Want revenge? Punch him in the balls next game when the refs might miss it or file an appeal to the CBA with video evidence to get him suspended for a game.
That punch might have hurt the guy, but there is NO reason to continue it after the game. Even if Gabe were to have broke the guy’s nose, 5-on-1 with his kids and wife in tow is plain wrong.
maltwhiskman Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 5:49 am
Why were they pissed at you Gabe? Besides being taller, stockier, heavier, and stronger, it’s reasonab;e to think you’re also a larger man than those Chinese guys, well I guess they were assuming that. I doubt you were going to lie with probably false reassurances to the contrary, (again, I’m just guessing), because they wouldn’t have believed you anyway, unless you showed them, which might have gotten you some Chinese jail time..
Chris D. Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
There is some good video links posted. From reviewing it myself many times, I see Gabe and Liu under the net positioning for the rebound. Liu locks arms with Gabe ( to keep him from jumping ) because Gabe had inside position for the rebound. Grab, aggresively shakes free and Liu falls down.
To me, it looked like a flop, and Gabe was letting him know about it. Liu responded. And if you look closely, Gabe was motioning in a ‘come here’ sort of way. Liu is only inches from his face, so his hand is close to his face, but there is no punch motion at all. And if you watch it closely looking at Liu’s head it looks like Gabes fingers almost touch him, but his head isn’t pushed back, like a punch, or even a light punch would cause it to.
I will never understand some people though. If people try to beat on you as a large gang, some people think the victim should be punished. If a pretty girl gets sexually assaulted should she go to jail too because she just looked so tempting?
Better yet, the argument against Gabe sound an awful lot like the argument that say’s 9/11 was America’s fault. Too aggressive, so they deserve to have people attack them. That’s ridiculous.
Jason Pinkalsky Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
Several players of the above-mentioned team have been suspended for ten matches,including fines for the players and the team. That should have addressed Gabe’s concern over the Chinese legal system/CBA. This post has racist undertones, and is an irresponsible response to a very unfortunate incident.
Good luck in the future.
Daniel Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
hmm…I know some more dirtier stories than this regarding sports in China, it’s unfortunate that his family was there. On the other hand, I also know some similar ugly events (a few, of course, is not reported publicaly) that happened in the US, Canada and several other countries. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if race was a factor but it wouldn’t be the only one. The post sounds a lot like usual trash talking, at least to me.
Hopefully, the CBA and other sport associations can take actions and measures to tackle these issues. I don’t know about you all but I wouldn’t be too pessimistic. Well, maybe a little.
Daniel Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 2:09 pm
Come to think of it, if your family was there—kids and even an in-law or two, I’m pretty sure most people would react quite frivolously.
Lee Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
nice how my post got removed, guess censorship is everywhere huh
BrianBoitono Said,
December 19, 2008 @ 10:21 pm
I just wanted to add…. most asain people are rude, smell funny and do eat rodents. They are just ignorent enough to learn enough basic english to butcher the language and sound like they are making demands when they speak. I.E instead of asking if a store clerk can help them with something, they instead say “you do now!!” what gabe said wasnt racist. what I said is.
Doctor J Said,
December 20, 2008 @ 7:48 am
First, I am sorry that it happened in front of your family and that your kids have seen it. However, my guess is somehow you provoked them to act in such a way.
I would like to point out that many black basketball players in asia show very disrespectful attitudes toward the host country, their fellow players and etc. You have suppressed anger living in a white society (US) and then you come to asia, a place which you believe that is inferior to you. So this time you identify yourself with your oppressor (whites) and then try to treat asians like the way you think that whites treated you and your ancestors in africa. Even if they don’t speak English, it doesn’t mean that they are not aware that you despise them.
I am sure they were just trying to teach you a lesson and not hurt you. Although you think they are diminutive (I think a weight of 175lb is too low for a basketball player, the lightest player may weigh around 180lb… which also reveals your despising attitude towards the chinese) they could have injured you seriously if they wanted to.
My advice, Gabe … respect your fellow chinese and they will respect you back. After all, your paycheck is coming from china.
Truth Said,
December 20, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
“AUSTIN - Gabe Muoneke, the Texas Longhorns’ leading scorer, was suspended for one game by coach Rick Barnes on Tuesday for throwing punches in Monday night’s 76-67 loss to No. 19 Kansas.
Muoneke was not charged with any fouls for fighting, and Barnes said neither he nor the game officials saw any of the incidents during the game.
But television replays of the game, which was carried by ESPN, showed Muoneke punching Kansas’ Nick Bradford in the first half and T.J. Pugh in the second half.
It is Muoneke’s second punching incident this season. Barnes made Muoneke write a letter of apology to Wisconsin guard Hennssy Auriantal after Muoneke punched him in the stomach during a game in December.
Barnes, in his first year at Texas, threatened Muoneke with suspension if the first incident was repeated. The coach said Tuesday that the school will provide Muoneke with anger counseling.
Muoneke said he welcomes the chance for counseling, which will start as early as Thursday.”
I do not like that there was an altercation in front of Gabe’s family but seems like Gabe has a history. You reap what you sow.
The Truth
Truth Said,
December 20, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
“In the middle of the whole thing I heard Ime, literally in mid-swing of another opponent say,”Watch back, Gabe” and he calmly, I mean calmly, smeared a guy who, as I turned to see his warning, jumped from the stands with a chair to probably kill me or knock me out to where the crowd would have. I mean, Ime caught the guy in mid air with a fist and calmly continued his dispacthing of oncoming people. He and other guys (yes, me too) were whoopin’ so many people the crowd backed up. True to the letter! But Ime had the most notches by far. As we retreated to the locker room to kind chants of, “You cudly blackies! We highly doubt your ability to leave this gym with lives intact” in French, (it might have been a bad translation) all I could do was marvel at Ime. This guy, I thought, was a quiet American guy was standing there – all his stuff gone (gym bag, wallet, shoes, jersey) – with a stick in his hand we tore off the walls of the locker room in the middle of North Africa quite literally with our lives on the line… laughing. All the while I was texting my wife that I loved her and might have a hard time seeing her again while she was watching the whole incident on BBC News. And Ime… laughing. He is and always will be my 9ja broda. Ime… Wetin happen bros? Abi na notin. Notin dey happen. To this day I don’t know how we got out of there. But that night we ate like kings at the Nigerian Embassy. And Ime was with us… Killing his Fu-fu.
Tell me how I could have seen a thing like that if I had made the NBA out of college! You just can’t make this stuff up.”
Seems like this man loves to brawl. Well let him in the UFC ring. Everyone is a joke to him and think its funny. Step off the court and joke in the streets and see what happens.
John Said,
December 20, 2008 @ 9:22 pm
While I appreciate Gabe trying to take the race factor out of the incident. There’s a clear air of superiority in his words. The comments after prove just how skewed our perception of other cultures are. Our vision of China still revolves around cold war era propaganda stereotypes and perpetuation of these stereotypes present day. I remember back when the Olympics were being covered several American sports reporters had written about ‘Chinese propaganda music’ playing in stadiums and subway stations when in fact these are nothing more than traditional folk songs. Cheesy? Certainly, but propaganda? Don’t we play ‘God Bless America” before nationally televised sports games?
The truth is racism exists everywhere. In Spain/Italy the crowd makes monkey noises to boo an opposing black football player. Remember the slanted eyes photo by the Spanish National team? Ignorance is universal, and for the poster who described ‘Chinese people as having a history’, or the post who said that the suspensions are evidence that even the Chinese agree that Gabe had no fault in the situation. In truth, having lived in China as a foreigner, I’ve found that Chinese people are extremely sensitive about the way they are perceived by others. They would go out of their way to make sure they do not get involved in any incidents with foreigners because of the unwanted attention. They would rather punish a compatriot a little harsher rather than be possibly perceived as being unfair against a foreign person.
Ignatius Reilly Said,
December 21, 2008 @ 3:43 am
Hey Gabe, I think you now know what it’s like to live as an Asian in America. What happened to you is wrong, but pretty much at least once a month I get racial cracks by people trying to goad me into altercations/fights. And I’m just walking down the street minding my business.
People who are reading your blog should understand that what happened to you is wrong. But they should also understand that this kind of thing happens every day in America to Asians.
Loud Noises Big Gweilo - RUN Said,
December 21, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
Just found this blog…great stuff with the diversity of dialogue and perspectives.
However, some of the posters on here are absolute fcking morons, and that’s not just evident from their poor grammar and spelling (including that of purported reporters) because that would include those simply giving a kind shout out from H-town (where I currently reside) who have exposed our failed public education system in the US. No, I’m referring to the dipsh!ts who are defending the ultimate act of cowardice…mob violence. There is no transgression that Gabe could have committed on the court that would have justified the action of the mouseketeers. Confronting and attacking a single man with 10 of your closest girlfriends (in front of his family nonetheless) is completely inexcusable and only shows that the only thing that exceeds Liu’s and Cai’s stupidity is their cowardice. If Gabe did anything wrong on the court, it should be handled by the refs on the spot and by the CBA upon review…not by a band of coddled pu$$ies ganging up on him hours later. Perhaps Cai throwing an elbow to Gabe’s throat while trying to position for the rebound was enough to justify in the ref’s mind Gabe pushing him back before he took a soccer flop. Regardless, it should be left up to the refs and league to resolve, and the players should walk off the field of competition with mutual respect and the knowledge that they will have another chance to prove themselves in fair play.
In this case, trying to defend the actions of those engaged in group violence smacks of pen!s envy and only serves to perpetuate an ugly stereotype…no matter how small it is.
Spoon Said,
December 22, 2008 @ 3:04 am
Update, the CBA decided to suspend and fine Gabe upon further review.
Gabe has left his team, Yunnan because he feels the CBA is unfair. There are also reports stating the team is now refusing to pay him, which also might have led to him leaving.
Gabe’s agent should have done some homework before letting him sign with Yunnan. That team is infamous for not paying players/coaches EVERY year. If I were Gabe, I would have his agent pay his entire dued salary or fire his ass.
Max Said,
December 22, 2008 @ 5:11 am
Are you going to be back to United States, and come back to NBA?
It’s said that you will leave Yunnan, could you tell your fans about what happened?
Max
Truth Said,
December 22, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Is it fair that 5 guys go against 1. No it is not. Just as the same is someone is bigger picks on someone that is weaker. Which I think is what happened with gabe in the games. You think just because you are inside 94 feet with white lines that it is O.K. to bully people. Well come to Chicago at a park, gym, league, organized game, or what ever and see what happens. You will get smashed, jumped, shot, cut, and so on. Look this is how the world works you bully people or you act like no one can touch you and trust me you will be touched. There is such thing in a fair fight thats why weapons were invented. Even if it is by a bunch of so called mouseketeers, you best keep your manners. Yea and why do people judge peoples intelligence on how they type on a blog. This is not a professional setting or a educational setting. Everytime i see someone type that people are so uneducated because they have grammatical errors in blogs really is the one that sounds stupid to me. There are several grammatical errors in my typing as well as everyone’s here and who looks at that. I can list all the degrees in the world and I still dont care how I type. The world isn’t fair, what goes around comes around.
Felix Said,
December 22, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
Hi Gabe,
Are you still in Kunming ? I know it’s a little bit silly. But there is no other way to contact you.I’m from a newspaper in Kunming,if you read this post and if you want to tell something,please email me mzincada@yahoo.com.cn
AWAY Said,
December 23, 2008 @ 12:33 am
Hi,I m a chinese fan.l love basketball game,and focused on CBA. From the NEWS,i know your unlucky accident. You are a good basketball player,i like watching your game. its known to us, CBA is indeed a low level league,whats more,it is making progress gradually.Shanghai team players hurt you.We also feel ashamed for them.Their action is mournful. I, as a chinese basketball fan,wish your family happy.Hope you forget the unpleasure experence and enjoy your time in Europe.
Chris Liu Said,
December 24, 2008 @ 3:10 am
I’m sorry this happened to you and I wish you can sue the team but unfortunately things are corrupt in China. But this blog instigates alot of racism from what I read in the comments. If you really want to let it go then you gotta realize this isn’t just you and China. I’m Taiwanese American, I grew up in Black DC, I’ve been thru worst than just beatings and mild insults. But ultimately it’s just a transition period, we all end up leaving places we feel unwelcomed to, I moved the hell outta DC and you got the hell outta China. We both learned our lesson didn’t we!
Lee Said,
December 25, 2008 @ 2:31 am
What I said earlier is how many times is an Asian with his family (in Amerikkka) and get hassled by a bunch of black mortherfucers? Or you’re in a club with your girl and a bunch of blackss try to start some sht? You have no grounds to complain about others ganging up on you.
You don’t like Chinea, get the fucc out
Chung Said,
December 26, 2008 @ 3:30 am
Lee, your reference of KKK and your use of vulgar language to describe black Americans sets us back two hundred years.
You could have easily demonstrated your point without embarassing the rest of your culture.
It’s like stupid Asian kids who smoke and loiter around in parking lots driving fixed up rice rockets. Try to represent your culture by standing out in a positive way, not set everyone back by being unique negatively and ruin it for the rest of us.
GetReal Said,
December 28, 2008 @ 11:19 pm
Gabe you did the level headed Adult thing by remembering what the consequences are and that the Chinese guys were just baiting you for a fight. You did you family and yourself service by keeping cool and as you said let them “blow off some steam”
Spoon Said,
December 30, 2008 @ 10:35 am
Just an update on the Gabe situation in China. Reports state that Gabe and his team, Yunnan, were able to reach an agreement for him to stay on the team. Gabe was not happy that the team stopped paying him.
HOWEVER, Gabe has been MIA since the team started to pay him again. He is no where to be found by anyone on the team since December 24th.
Something is fishy…
First the team doesn’t pay, now the player goes MIA after getting paid?
Coolmeiguoren Said,
February 4, 2009 @ 6:51 am
Hey Gabe,
I’m from the U.S. and I’ve lived in Beijing, China for more than 8 years. I have been in your situation in China before, surrounded by about a hundred people hitting, spitting, kicking, cursing…just because I was a foreigner falsely accused of bumping into a Chinese girl’s car with my leg and then arguing with her about it. Wound up with a torn shirt and a few cuts and bruises before the police showed up and got us out of there. The police only listened to the Chinese side of the story, which was entirely made up (still not sure what the motive was there.) Don’t let the morons get you down - China will wear on you but don’t let these mob-oriented a-holes get the best of you. You did exactly the right thing and wound up getting the last laugh over those jerks. Keep up the great writing!
@Ignatius Reilly, really? “..this kind of thing happens every day in America to Asians”? What an over-exaggerating jacka$$, and even if it was true, does that justify what happened to Gabe in your small racist mind? And for all of you other people who faulted Gabe for his comments, and brought racism into the discussion - try living in China for awhile to see how things really are there, before you mouth off about things you don’t know about.
Charlie Said,
February 11, 2009 @ 4:11 pm
Hey Gabe,
I’ve only read your past two blogs, and I have to say that I’ll be reading more. I’ve never even read blogs before!
What a bad spot you were in. I can’t imagine being approached like that and then, even worse, writing about it and getting harsh comments from disillusioned people, especially the Mickey Mouse above me. I can never put myself in your shoes, so I will never try to make judgments.
I hope you read this all realize you have some supporters out there, however few they are. Hopefully a smart GM sees you’re true potential. Don’t let Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch keep you down!
PS - send me a plane ticket and I’ll watch your team play despite the 4-30something record. I always enjoy a good hack-a-shack.