2000-2009: Best of the best
10. Allen Iverson
“The Answer” might well have roosted near the top of this list if he had somehow managed to be a team player and a disciplined leader. Those qualities, however, were not in his portfolio. What he did have were quickness and fearlessness in abundance. He could break down virtually any defense and find an open shot when none seemed possible. As a defender he gathered steals in amazing bunches, although his size sometimes left him being exploited by taller opponents. His weakness was justifiably viewed as his attitude toward playing the team game, yet Iverson could also amaze with his passing displays. In the end, he remained a mystery, infinitely talented yet unable to compromise on so many of the team issues central to the game.
9. Paul Pierce
Pierce might have been overlooked on this list if his stupendous performance in the 2008 league championship series hadn’t revealed his remarkable abilities. He literally ran the Lakers’ defense into the ground and exposed Los Angeles during that series. It was the kind of performance that made observers stop and think about Pierce’s great effort on undermanned Boston teams throughout the decade. He had been forced to carry undermanned teams on his back, and when his chance came in the NBA Finals, Pierce took his place among the best. And the Lakers nor any other team in the league could do anything to stop him.
8. Steve Nash
He’s not blessed with the greatest athleticism, but he is athletic enough. Rather, it is his brilliant and rare court vision and passing ability that have allowed Nash to reign as a two-time Most Valuable Player in the NBA. He found the high gear of his game with the up-tempo Phoenix Suns, a team that pushed the pace at the expense of defense. If not for defensive questions, Nash might surely rate higher on this list, because he has the ability to turn mediocre teams into very good ones. He is simply one of the best open court players in the history of the game.
7. Dirk Nowitzki
Nowitzki is the big man with the perimeter skills of a guard and the rebounding abilities of a dedicated role player. He has become one of the toughest matchups in the NBA today and the primary reason that the Dallas Mavericks have remained in contention for the duration of the decade. Not only has he been consistently good, but he has continued to get better over the course of his career in Dallas. Versatility is one of his key functions as well, as he can play multiple frontcourt positions in a league where athleticism and specialty make that a true accomplishment. His passing isn’t bad either.
6. Dwyane Wade
Wade’s ability to get to the rim and his quickness and crossover dribble immediately branded him a star as soon as he entered the NBA. Naturally, he’s a powerful combo guard, able to play some at the point although he thrives at the wing. His natural leadership abilities and defensive competence help complete the package. He literally drove the Miami Heat to the 2006 title with the help of Shaquille O’Neal and an array of role players. His outside shot has made steady progress over his years as a pro. Much of his future is also yet to be decided as he attempts to find stronger supporting players to fit his leadership and drive.
5. Kevin Garnett
Garnett labored for years in frustration with the Minnesota Timberwolves (where he was named league Most Valuable Player) before his 2007 trade to the Boston Celtics. But it was in Boston where Garnett realized his championship possibilities. His size and strength and durability helped define him as a power forward, but nothing framed his persona more than his legendary intensity. His competitiveness drove the teams he played on and established his place as one of the game’s all-time greats. His characteristic weapon was the face-up jumper from the top of the key, but really Garnett could score from any spot of his choosing. And his defense intimidated even the best opponents.
4. LeBron James
James is the unproven upstart who has seen his teams thrive during the regular season only to fail in the playoffs. Clearly he has lacked the supporting players that other greats of the decade have employed to win their titles. But none of the other greats have survived the childhood difficulties that James faced as the single son of a drug- and alcohol-addicted mother. In some ways, James is a blend of Bryant and O’Neal – a physical specimen with the athleticism of a Michael Jordan. His best days seemingly lie ahead, depending on what supporting cast he can find.
3. Kobe Bryant
No player over the decade matched Bryant’s determination, effort and dedication. He was the supremely disciplined star in command of every phase of the game not just because of his talent but because of his labor to perfect every element. His talent thrilled crowds like no big man ever could. Bryant has long been viewed as the “second coming” of Michael Jordan, but one thing that the high-scoring, high-flying Bryant established over the course of winning four NBA titles during the decade – he is his own man. That, in itself, meant that he frustrated Phil Jackson and Tex Winter as Bryant matured into the game’s top player late in the decade.
2. Shaquille O’Neal
The Shaq fans see today is a mere shadow of his former self. In 2000, his size and strength terrorized the league. The undisciplined O’Neal finally found a coach he respected in Phil Jackson, and that brought the best focus of his career. O’Neal became more disciplined that year, although he still disliked setting screens or defending the pick and roll. The Lakers’ new triangle offense put O’Neal in position to do what he did best – score at point blank range. His longstanding feud with teammate Kobe Bryant began to wane and Jackson made sure Shaq got the ball. He led the league in scoring at 29.7 points. Shaquille O’Neal was at the height of his powers in the 2001 NBA Finals, where he averaged 33 points and almost 16 rebounds over five games. But there’s also the sense that his habits and bull-headedness meant that he wasted much of his immense talent.
1. Tim Duncan
Shaquille O’Neal teasingly nicknamed Tim Duncan “The Big Fundamental.” That brought more publicity than the naturally reserved Duncan cared for. However, the name was true. Strong and smart, Duncan presented a skill set and an intelligence that no big man in the NBA could match. His presence on the block demanded fast double-teams, but he also struck terror in opponents with his face-up bank shots. His consistency proved to be the perfect centerpiece for building a championship team. He was the one player admired by all the retired Legends from the NBA’s past. They loved how he played the game with the highest skill and kept his mouth shut. And true lovers of the game treasure his ability to pass the basketball.
Fred Towes Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 6:02 pm
In context, I wholeheartedly agree with this list of ten, although in theory, I am left to ask what LeBron James has done *this* decade (aside receive anointment from the mainstream media & athletic apparel corporate complexes) to warrant ranking him ahead of #s 5-10, or for that matter, above Jason Kidd or Tracy McGrady, or even his fellow Class of ‘03 wunderkind Carmelo Anthony?
Peace,
MT
Leo Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 6:18 pm
Its a list of 10. NBA has over 400 players. Cant include them all!
Keefer Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 6:19 pm
Iverson? C’mon. One Finals appearance and a few 1st round loses get you 10th of the decade? I understand he plays with passion and heart, but so do guys like Derek Fisher. Lebron should be a tad lower and 10th should be Jason Kidd (2 finals, 3 ecf, second in assists all time).
Tom Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 6:25 pm
I think this is a great list, and establishes itself as a great list for the simple fact that Kobe is not listed above Shaq and Duncan. People tend to over-inflate Kobe’s greatness, forgetting about Duncan’s and Shaq’s prime, as well as their amazing accomplishments.
I think Jason Kidd easily could have made this list as well.
jmals Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
I agree with Fred. LeBron made it the finals and was swept. Rank him over Carmelo sure, McGrady never made it out of the 1st round (while playing that is) so rank him ahead, but Kidd? He made it to the finals two in a row and lost, isn’t he like the #3 on the alltime triple double list behind Oscar and Magic? Hasn’t he done far more than LeBron this decade. Save him for next decades list when he gets some titles.
Isaiah Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 7:05 pm
good list overall but kidd should be in and lebron shouldn’t be above iverson….he hasnt done enough period
Bhavik Patel Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 7:06 pm
Lets Redo this list
1. Shaquille Oneal
2. Duncan
3. Kobe
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Allen Iverson
6. Jason Kidd
7. King James
8. Dirk Nowitski
9. Dwayne Wade
10. Steve Nash
Bhavik Patel Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 7:07 pm
i could also interchange 8, 9, 10 as Nash, Nowitski, and than Wade
BullsNut Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 7:33 pm
@Keefer you have to include iverson.
i might slide kidd in there instead of pierce.
knowitall Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 8:38 pm
kobe should be 2. I cannot believe I am saying that. kobe is my favorite player but shaq was SO DOMINANT!. I admit duncan is more skilled but shaq dominance is only comparable to wilt. Shaq made people give up on defense(hence hack - a - shaq) duncan never had that impact. People kobe is better than duncan. If duncan played with shaq he too would be overshadowed . Micheal jordan never had another alpha male like shaq on his team. pippen played the background with pride..and it was of preference as we seen when jordan retired. But also dirk????? really? I think toni kukoc was better than him! dirk just gets the ball more and toni came through in the clutch unlike dirk. but besides that i agree with the list.
Adam F. Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 8:44 pm
The lack of J-Kidd makes me doubt the legitimacy of this list.
Basketball Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 9:13 pm
Jason Kidd is def. a top 8 player of this decade. Shame that they let you do this list.
This Patel guy rated the players better.
ohh and Shaq on number 1….why?? name one team that could stop Shaq in his prime??…tought so
"not" a laker fan Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
1.Kobe
2.Kobe
3.Kobe
4.Kobe
5.Carmelo
6.Kobe
…
"not" a laker fan Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 9:51 pm
1.Kobe
2.Kobe
3.Kobe
4.Kobe
5.Wade
6.Kobe
….
Joe Shmoe Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 10:25 pm
Why Dwane Wade but no Chris Bosh? And just for the record, for the 00-09 period, Vince Carter >>>Paul Pierce.
Matt Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
Duncan and Kobe ruled the decade for the simple reason that they are the ONLY 2 players that have been either championship contenders or MVP canidates every year of this decade.
Shaq was a force in the first half, but hasnt been an “impact player” the last 5 years. While I do agree that he should be on the list, I dont think he should be top 3.
Dirk? I agree he has been an influencial player and all, but can anyone honestly look back and think about him receiving the MVP award without getting a pit in their stomach? He’s good, the best European player ever, but hasnt won a championship and has NEVER been a concern for other teams in the playoffs. Great player, but hasnt accomplished enough to be top 10.
Iverson should be higher on this list. He carried a team on his back to the championship and had he not faced the best team in the last 10 years, he could have won it, too. As an individual, Iverson’s accomplishments are unmatched (scoring titles, MVP, playoff success). Even in the latter half of the decade, Iverson was a leader of the Nuggets, who were a top team in the west for 2-3 years and he was still scoring top-10 in the league. He certainly has accomplished more than Pierce, Dirk or even Kevin Garnett and should be higher on this list for sure.
KG is an awesome talent and has been for the entire length of his career, but it seems to me that he’s being put on this list because he just won a championship a year ago…but thats just me (and I love KG).
Lebron….while he should be on the list, he hasn’t been around for enough of the decade or accomplished enough during that time, to be ahead of guys like Iverson and Nash. He was great in this first 2 years but didnt have too many accomplishments and hasnt really been talked about for MVP or for contending for a championship since 2007. His best accomplishments are yet to come so to put him ahead of some of these guys for what he’s done in the last 3-4 years really isnt fair to them.
Nash was being called the best point guard in history a couple years ago and is reminding us all this year of what made us think that. He won back-to-back MVP’s and has been great the last 5 years but hasnt won a championship and really hasnt been part of a threatening playoff team in the last 10 years. Should be on the list, but towards the bottom.
Duncan won 3 championships, 2 MVP’s and has been stellar all decade. He, like Kobe, has been relevant when talking about MVP awards or championship contenders for every single year of this decade and that is why he should be number 2 on this list.
Kobe should top this list for pretty much the same reason as Duncan, but he’s been more successful than Duncan so thats why he gets the number 1 spot. Kobe has won 4-championships, been in 6 of the last 10 championships, won more playoff games than any of these players, won an MVP and has been the best player (overall) in this decade. Even in the years when the Lakers had no shot at the playoffs, Kobe put up numbers that would have easily won him MVP awards had his team just won 10 more games. Almost every single year of the last 8, Kobe has been among the 2 being considered for MVP and many times (against Dirk & Nash especially) he should have won. If you look back at the last 10 years, Kobe won rings in the beginning, was the best individual player in the NBA during the middle of the decade and now has become a winner again in the latter half of the decade. Clear choice for number one.
jdsj Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:17 pm
This decade is duncan’s and kobe’s, they should be tied for number 1. And shaq number 2.
Sure shaq is one of the most dominant players in NBA history but considering his performance this decade ‘00 to ‘09, his best years came at the start of the decade ‘00 to ‘04, he did not even play well for the 2006 finals for the Heat (wade carried them to win) and he has been playing old since then except for a few stretch of games in his stint for the Suns.
Duncan, as boring as the Spurs play, has been the consistent meter stick for big man production in the league during the decade culminating in 3 championships during the middle of the decade (03,05,07). He has been consistently great this decade.
While Kobe on the other hand, started the decade as the needed second punch for Shaq to win 3 straight championships in 4 finals, proved himself as one of the greatest scorers in history and individual talent during the decade and came back from rock bottom to win the another championship in his 6th overall finals appearance all in this decade (6/10 finals! not bad…)
Matt Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:20 pm
if you were to rank these players in order of talent (when they were in their prime) it would look something like this:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Shaquille O’neal
4. Allen Iverson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Steve Nash
8. Dwayne Wade
9. Dirk Nowitzki
10. Paul Pierce
thats not talking just “most talented” not “most accomplished”
Stanleezy Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:25 pm
The Top 10 is
1.Tim Duncan (4 Rings)
2. Shaq (4 Rings)
3. Kobe (4 Rings & 1 MVP)
4. Kevin Garnett (1 Ring & 1 MVP)
5. Steve Nash (2 MVP)
6. D-Wade (over Lebron He Got 1 Ring)
7. Lebron James (1 MVP)
8.Allen Iverson (1 MVP)
9. Jason Kidd (Career Explanatory)
10. Tracy McGrady (Dominate Scorer)
just missed Dirk….
Alfredo Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:29 pm
Vince Carter Anyone??
Heck Dugo Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:49 pm
What an absolute joke. You cannot rank Lebron James on potential. What he will do or “might” accomplish. Slam pulled the same garbage in their 50 greatest issue. The man is amazing. There’s no player like him yet he has accomplished very little in his career. Dwaye Wade has a ring. Scoring? Kobe scored 81. I do not understand what criteria people base his greatness on. I truly believe that Kobe is the most accomplished player and well rounded basketball player of the decade. After the 09-10 season it will be clear when he takes ring #5 and Tim, Shaq & Lebron are watching from their vacation homes.
Gobble Said,
December 14, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
was james worthy part of this decade we’re talking about?
lol Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:34 am
Kobe better than duncan? give me a break. Duncan and shaq were definitely better than kobe earlier. It is tough to decide who was better between shaq and duncan though. AI should not be on the list. He was a great player, but to be honest he brought nothing other than being a small guy who could score. Take out Iverson and put in jason kidd. Also I think having james that high up is overrating him a tad. I know he will be the best when the years go by, but I don’t think he ranks as 4 of this decade.
FallODaLdr Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 1:07 am
Not sure why Kobe isn’t #1. He’s been to 6 finals of this decade’s 10 winning 4 titles. He took two teams with little to no talent into the playoffs as a 7th seed in the tough west with 40+wins each time. If his team was in the East they would have been a 4 or 5 seed. He’s been the best player at his position for entire decade as well (though T-mac was pretty good at the begining of the decade).
Shaq was dominat till 2003, maybe 2004. After than he has been a shell of himself both offensively and defensivley.
Duncan is fantastic but he’s “only” won 3 titles in this decade. Since his last championship his team has struggled mightly with injury including himself. His impact this decade is signigicant, but not greater than Kobe.
Not sure Dirk should even be on this list, other than good (not great) offensive numbers he’s done nothing. Oh, and he stole Kobe’s MVP that year.
Lebron and Iverson are both way too high also. I thought best meant winning something. You might as well put Yao or Amare or T-mac if its just about numbers. Hell, why don’t you throw in Vince Carter too?
Luke Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 1:52 am
basketball is a TEAM game. it’s about who was the best (TEAM) player of the decade, not about comparing if Kobe would beat Shaq/Duncan 1-on-1.
the truth Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 1:59 am
Who beat the Lakers? The truth? Or the ‘overpriced ticket’? That fact alone should be enough to change their rankings.. As for Nash V.s Dirk. Please! Not even close. Nash (like Kidd) are on a different level. Nash was robbed for his 3rd MVP.
Bill Simmons Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 2:21 am
Tim Duncan is rightfully #1
Jason Kidd should be on this list
tony mims Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 2:28 am
List was on pt. Its about time mr duncan gets his due. He has a better resume than shaq and kobe and they had great decades too but tim did it quite and like a professional should. On the court and in the finals where it counts most.
nelly Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 3:34 am
I agreed with this list all the way up to Timmy D over Shaq…I would rate Shaquille Oneal over Timmy not because he is better or more skilled but simply what he meant to the league as a player and as a character…he was so great on the court and off, he has involved himself in every community organization and events sponsored by the league and also sponsored by himself “shaq-a-claus”…the guy is so giving and embodies what a true athlete should be like in the public eye “larger than life”
i sometimes cannot believe how much haters Shaq has, i mean the guy is like super cool and such a philanthropist.
Shaq should have been number one on the list and all the rest was ranked perfectly.
Buc Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 4:49 am
I’m sorry but, it took a trip to the Finals before some people figured out how good Paul Pierce is/was? That’s sad. At one point, he had more 2000 point seasons than both Iverson and Kobe. “Carried his team” is an understatement.
The part about LeBron’s childhood is reaching. Wade also had a mother into drugs and alcohol, and he was raised mostly by his sister as a result.
Ball hog Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 6:03 am
Lebron and D-Wade should not even be on this list they were drafted in 2003 save them for the next decade.
Lets Redo this list
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Kevin Garnett
5. Allen Iverson
6. Jason Kidd
7. Steve Nash
8. Dirk Nowitski
9. Paul Pierce
10. Ray Allen/ Vince Carter
Serge Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 6:30 am
For Iverson not be in the top top 5 shows your a hater. For him not to be in your top 3 even is also not cool. Lebron/Wade those guys should be below all those guy’s just because of them being draft half way through 04. PP/Nash/Dirk above AI? Are you on drugs man? That puts him atleast at 5 when you take away those 3, and Wade/Lebron who have not done it long enough. KG/Duncan had always had more around them. Duncan for sure you can even compare. So that leaves Kobe/AI/Shaq any order. Kobe has done NOTHING BY HIM SELF. First he had Shaq, and then he had Pau Gasol another 20/10 all star + others. What did he do with out Shaq, and before Pau Gasol and the crew? He still had Odom who is not a AWFUL #2 go to guy yet he did NOTHING. Well outside of the 2 big scoring games. He should have won the title against Boston having another 20/10 guy Odom, Fisher ect…..He did NOT get it done. Being the best player he should have got it done. AI BY HIM SELF has done more then Kobe if you think about. Look at what Kobe did with out Shaq. Look at what Kobe did when Shaq left and before Pau Gasol came. They still had Odom a solid 2nd guy, and a solid team around him. More then Iverson EVER had on the Sixers. Now the West is tough. So you can’t lead a team to the Western Conference finals by your self in the West. BUT atleast past the first round. I don’t even remember if they got to the playoffs with out Shaq and with out Pau Gasol. I would go Shaq then Iverson 2nd, and Kobe 3rd.
Daniel Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 8:04 am
I agree with a lot of people in here! Jason Kidd is a must have on this list! A guy making a contender of a former horrible team and taking them to two finals in a row! Finishing second in MVP voting one year I believe, and constantly named to the ALL NBA team. Not naming him on the list is a disaster!
Patrick Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 9:08 am
JASON KIDD! and yes… he should have won MVP that year over tim duncan, no question!
Rasmus Jung Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 10:19 am
the true nr 1 = ROBERT HORRY, he is maybe the reason for SHAQ, KOBE AND DUNCAN have so many rings, for all the clutch shots to give his various playoff teams crucial wins to win the series. 7 rings isnt bad either.
1. Tim Duncan, 4 rings, 3 finals mvp, 2 mvp, 1 all star mvp, roy, why over Shaq? simply because he still averages an double double.
2. shaquille onal, 4 rings, 3 finals mvp, 1 mvp, 3 all star mvp, roy, over Kobe? = 3 finals mvp’s, Kobe should had deserved one of them though.
3. Kobe Bryant, 4 rings, 1 finals mvp, 1 mvp, 3 all star mvp, roy, why lesser than Shaq and Tim? he first became a true leader in 07-08
4. Kevin Garnett, 1 ring, 1 mvp, 1 defoyear, 1 all star mvp, roy
5. Steve Nash, 2 mvp’s
6. Dwyane Wade, 1 ring, 1 finals mvp, why over LBJ? = 1 RING! wade had a better cast bla bla bla, the point is = Wade got ring!
7. Paul Pierce, 1 ring, 1 finals mvp, why so low? his stats are low and didnt make as much as impact like Wade who lead his team from 0-2 series deficit.
8. Allen Iverson, 1 mvp, 2 all star mvp, roy, so low? even though he is the best little man that ever played - for the moment - he only lead his team to the finals in 2001, and since yeah = DOWNFALL
9. Jason Kidd, awards doenst matter for this man, took his team to the finals consecutive years but suffered from Shaq’s prime.
10. Chauncey Billups, 1 ring, 1 finals mvp, beat the lakers and led the underdog pistons to the title.
Lebron James - 1 mvp, 2 all star mvp, roy = why isnt he on the list? WADE GOT A RING, and took over the finals, even though James peformance against the pistons was better, Wade still got a ring !
Dirk? 1 mvp yeah thats fine, but since 2006 has the mavs always got their hearts broken, even though Dirk is one of the best players, Jason Kidd by far have maked a bigger impact than Dirk.
Vince Carter = should maybe be on the list, because he is the greatest dunker of the decade (lebron cant make a 360 in a game - yet or make a 360 spinning layup, jump over a man in the olympics, sick athletic windmails) Lebron fanboys stop hating, you know the truth, even though Lebron has the greatest hops right now, Vince highlights in Toronto is much, much better. Lebron is also 6.8 and Vince 6.6 and VInce was still able to turn the dunk contenst in 2000 into the Vince DUNK FEST.
T-MAC = isnt on - great scorer in the early decade but since = injuries and still hasnt been able to come out of the first round.
Mark Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 10:27 am
LEBRON HATERS! He has been in the top 5 in MVP voting the last 6 years. He has been to the conference finals twice and the finals once and is the best player on the planet! Jason Kidd? Are you kidding? No pun intended.
Rasmus Jung Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 11:18 am
yes and still hasnt won a ring . . . has led the league in scoring 1 time, Jason Kidd has led the league in assists in how many times? 5 times, 9 time all star, 5 all first team, 4 all FIRST defensive team, 5 all second team, Lebron is the best with Kobe and Wade right now, but he doenst belong on the list for this decade. He hasnt made a impact yet, he hasnt won a slam dunk like KObe and Vince, he hasnt won a championshot, hasn won multible mvp’s, when he has done that (and he will) but for now, nah he doenst belong to the list
Rasmus Jung Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 11:22 am
Kidd - 2 gold olympic medals - undefeated in international competition
Lebron - 1 gold, 2! bronze medals and not undefeated, and i know James was a rookie in 2003 and that team usa didnt have the best team (thanks to AI and Marbury), but the point is Kidd has a better record.
Fred Towes Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 11:24 am
Mark,
No LeBron hatred whatsoever: he is an extraordinary physical specimen and an outstanding basketball player. The question at hand is what has he accomplished (on the court) during these ten 00 season relative to the others on the list, and the one glaring omission (Jason Kidd), that warrants ranking him as high as #4.
The supports offered in your responses further evidence the benefit (undue in my mind) young Mr. James enjoys in such conversations — benefits which are not necessarily of his own doing. The fact that he has been in the top 5 in MVP voting over these six years is a function of his early anointment by corporate sporting interests & the recognition of this anointment by the professional basketball establishment (the Association’s Manhattan office, assigned mainstream media hoop scribes, the players’ association, etc.) .
Where I grant that I earlier raised the specters of Tracy McGrady & Carmelo Anthony primarily to make my point, there is no court-relevant legitimacy to placing LeBron James above at least four of the players rated lower than him in Roland Lazenby’s list, nor above the absurdly omitted Jason Kidd, given the players’ basketball accomplishments. I can imagine placing James at this list’s very end (or beginning, as the editors have reverted the chronicle to 10-1), with some coda relative to the brilliance surely to come from his remaining career. But #4, in 2009, given what he’s done thus far on the court, given who is lower (or higher), given who is not here at all?
Mr. Lazenby’s reference to James’ upbringing reads as both particularly startling in this context & profoundly irrelevant. It seems as if the media scribe was searching for some justification for what he himself perhaps took as a dubious ranking. I say that with all due respect, as Mr. Lazenby offers the most consistently interesting of this site’s journalistic essays (along with the work of Eddie Johnson, for wholly different reasons), & I commend him for getting the very top of the list absolutely correct, while offering insightful, clear, true, & caustic support for his placement of O’Neal. Too many seem oddly disinclined from critiquing this lumbering basketball icon’s legacy.
As to young LeBron James, let us check back circa 2015-2019 & assess the docket with an actual decade’s worth of evidence relative to LeBron’s career. Do not forget that a list of the top 10 players of the 90’s could have included Anfernee Hardaway or Grant Hill ranked ahead of Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing &/or David Robinson, using the rationale underpinning Mr. Lazenby’s 00 chronicle. Ten years later, as those four legends laurels rightly rest in Springfield, MA, most have trouble recalling the splendor of a young Penny & of an anointed Grant. I say this knocking on wood for James, & without intent to disparage Hardway or Hill, as both were among my very favorite players as an adolescent. I say this instead to mollify the Hype (pun intended) in the Game, & to ask that we instead let the player earn his due. On the court.
Respect,
MT
the_shot Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:05 pm
hey, this list forgot to mention rick brunson!he played for 9 TEAMS in less than a decade!
Heck Dugo Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:23 pm
I played college ball and had a horrible chilhood. Much worse than Lebrons I can guarantee that. Doesn’t that qualify me for the list as well?
Kalakuta Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:38 pm
Just take a look at Kobe’s stats over the past decade and compare them to anyone of your choosing…Particularly his playoff stats because as we all know the playoffs is where it really matters, that being said Iverson really should NOT be on this list especially if we are looking at the decade.
basketboule Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:42 pm
lebron james has done nothing more than allen iverson, who has however been one of the most influential personalities to ever play the game. he has also won more finals games than james has (on a VERY bad team), plus he’s been the most prolific scorer of the league this last decade. the list should be sth like… (kidd, as good as he is, has to be the odd man out here, I rank him higher than james though, he is #11, someone has to be)
iverson
billups
nash
nowitzki
wade
pierce
garnett
duncan
Shaq
Kobe
the top three are interchangeable, however I view Kobe’s scoring and defending ability, his virtually flawless game, as reasons to take him as #1. finals appearances also favor him. my point would be more about billups and kidd ahead of james though.
Edub Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 12:59 pm
2000-2009…..?
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Iverson
5. Garnett
6. Kidd
7. Pierce
8. Nash
9. Dirk
10. Ray Allen/Vince Carter
This is more like it……
Remi Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 1:37 pm
Way to much emphasis on championships…. And shaq has been irrelavent for the last half decade
frank b Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 1:52 pm
It’s just opinion but:
1) Shaquille O’Neal. Come on Roland, didn’t you watch when Duncan and Shaq played against each other? There is no way on the court if you have to choose between Duncan in his prime and Shaq in prime that you don’t take Shaq. Tayshaun Prince and the Celtics managed to contain Kobe in key playoff series but Shaq in his prime could not be covered by anyone on earth, including Mr. Duncan.
Steve Nash. One of few players in league that raises level of teammates play.
2) Kobe Bryant. Resume speaks for itself. You might also remember that Kobe tore San Antonio apart in virtually every series that they played this decade.
3) Tim Duncan. Overachieving player with less talent, worse statistics, and a better basketball mind than most of the players on this list.
4) Kevin Garnett. Took terrible Minnesota teams deep into playoffs and won the ring with Boston. Leader on both ends of floor.
5) Lebron James. Can’t be higher because hasn’t won a championship, freak of nature size, speed, agility. The next decade could be his.
6) Jason Kidd. Truly one of the greatest point guards of all time.
7) Dwayne Wade. Wouldn’t be on the list if it weren’t for Shaq.
9) Dirk Nowitski. Tremendous winning record. Has skills that no one else on list has for a 7 footer. Needs a heart transplant.
10) Paul Pierce. Doesn’t make the list without Garnett.
Yep Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
Do people realize that one of Duncans championships was in 1999? If we are just doing the decade (2000-2010, though I do know eras don’t start in a zero year, but I believe decades do) then you can’t argue Duncan. Duncan has to fall to third. Nothing he did counts before 2000 for this debate. And Kidd has to be in the top 5. After championships getting to the finals is the next best thing and he got there twice.
New List:
1. Kobe: 4 championships + 2 more finals + Finals MVP, MVP, 10 allstar teams, 1st team All NBA(too lazy to look up how many times)
2. Shaq: 4 championships + 1 more finals + 3 Finals MVP, MVP, 9 allstar teams, 1st team All NBA
3. Duncan: 3 championships + 2 Finals MVP, 2 MVP, 10 allstar, 1st team All NBA
4. KG: 1 championship + WCF + MVP, 10 Allstar, 1st team all NBA
5. Pierce: 1 championship + ECF + Finals MVP, 9? Allstar, 1st/2nd All NBA (Really can’t remember all those)
6. Billups: 1 championship + 6 CFs (in a row no less) +Finals MVP, 8? Allstar, ? All 1st/2nd/3rd Teams (someone should look it up)
7. Wade: 1 championship, 1 ECF, Finals MVP 6? Allstars, ? All NBA
8. Tony Parker: 3 championship rings, Finals MVP
9. Kidd: 2 finals, 10 allstars, ?All NBA
10. Tie: Dirk, AI, Lebron All got 1 finals and one MVP
Porky Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 2:37 pm
Paul Pierce…the one man who does have a ring and OUTPLAYED LEBUM in the playoffs in a direct one-on-one. Dont know why people like to forget that FACT and diss him. I guess its envy. Vince Carter- Mr. No-Defense and joins Iverthug who is just a ball hog and loser.
Edub Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 3:27 pm
^^^^ Boston fans are halarious…..
kobefan Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 3:29 pm
great article! pretty accurate ranking. tim duncan deserves to be number. he’s underrated. he’s not flashy so people tend to forget his consistency. the san antonio spurs has always been a championship contender from 2000-2009. i agree with lebron at 4 because he turned around the franchise by himself. i’d also put kg behind lebron because he wasn’t able to get past the first round of the playoffs without the help of cassell and spreewell. i would consider putting jason kidd on the list if paul pierce didnt win ring.
i’m a kobe fan but i also like lebron. obviously there are lots of haters here who thinks like a child. kobe is the greatest right now. lebron is slightly below the level of kobe but he’ll reach that level definitely or maybe even surpass it(he’s still young and improving). whether you like it or not, kobe will pass the torch to lebron.
Slappy Wilson Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 3:42 pm
I think Kidd absolutely needs to be on this list. At the very least, he should be in the #8 spot. One can argue that he was even better than Nash during this decade - took less talented teams to 2 Finals (would have been 3 in a row had his knee not given out on him vs. Detroit). I also feel that Vince Carter deserves to be on this list ahead of both Iverson and Pierce. I know Pierce got the ring and Iverson has the scoring crowns, but Vince has surprisingly gone from an overrated superstar (from the Toronto days) to an underappreciated superstar (the NJ years). He made his teammates better (an unbelievably underrated passer), displayed leadership (especially last year - Dooling and Hayes had career years and he helped accelerate the development of Lopez and Anderson) and actually made people better.
Nick Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
How about Ben Wallace??? Four defensive player of the year awards, an NBA Championship.
THE BAWSE Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 5:16 pm
1.Michael ruffin
2.popeye jones
3.shawn bradley
4.Georghe muresan
5.earl boykins
6.jared jeffries
7.pavel podkolzin
8.Sun ming ming
9.dj mbenga
10.marcin gortat
put these guys on your team and you got a higlight reel and 10 championships!
Greg Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 5:26 pm
Defense get no love whatsoever. Where is Ben Wallace, Dekembe Mutombo? Both of them have multiple DPOY awards. In fact, between the two they have five of the awards this decade.
Another point, why is Paul Peirce even mentioned on this list and no mention of Robert Horry? Horry five rings and one of the greatest clutch players of all-time.
G Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 5:26 pm
Please no more Vince Carter talk, you have to have some heart to make the list! I never was a Shaq fan and rooted against those Laker teams (pointlessly as they where unstoppable), but he should be #1 followed by Duncan at #2, and I hate to say it Kobe at #3. Shaq was so dominant that the NBA removed the illegal defense rule (almost allowing zone defense) in 2001. There is not another player on that list that had the rules changed because of him. Too bad Shaq is such a fat lazy slob, or he would have dominated for longer period of time and probably would have won a few more championships. AI deserves to be on the list, definitely above Nowitski as he played with some of the worst supporting casts ever. People say Lebron took a bunch of nobodies to the finals, but even that team was better than AI’s finals team.
AaronT Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 6:25 pm
JASON KIDD WAS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE FOR 5 YRS OF THIS DECADE HOW IS HE NOT ON THIS LIST!!!!
1. KOBE
2. DUNCAN
3. SHAQ
4. KG
5. DIRK
6. IVERSON
7. KIDD
8. NASH
9. D-WADE
10. LEBRON
Cameron Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 6:47 pm
Great list, can’t think of any changes I’d make. Tim Duncan is an all-time great, top 5 all-time in my opinion
noah Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 6:53 pm
ranking lebron on potential?? seriously??? the guy played in the nba for 7 of 10 seasons in the 00s. During those 7 years, he’s averaged 27.6 ppg, shoting 47%, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.7 steals and just under 1 block. What potential? LeBron’s been a top 5 player in the NBA since his second season.
In my mind, especially when you consider Shaq’s dropoff the past few years, Duncan is undoubtedly #1. Other than KG, he’s the only guy on this list who has been the best player on his team for all 10 years this decade. And those teams have been perennial title contenders.
Nash, who is a great player, is also the most overrated player of the 00s. Why? Because he is among the worst defensive players in the NBA over the past decade. Dirk has become a solid defensive player, but also had some terrible defensive years. Iverson is also a questionable defender. In my book, it hurts all of their rankings. If I were ranking these 10 guys, my order would be:
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. KG
4. Shaq
5. Lebron
6. D-Wade
7. Dirk
8, 9, 10 (can’t pick). Iverson; 9. Pierce (penalized for quitting on his team repeatedly during the prime of his career, though props for his remarkable comeback); Nash
I’d have to think about it a little more, but I’m sure I’d have Kidd on this list, and probably have him above everybody starting at Dirk. I’d certainly have Chauncy Billups on the list, as well, probably right after Dirk. So:
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. KG
4. Shaq
5. Lebron
6. Wade
7. Kidd
8. Dirk
9. Billups
To me, 10 is pretty close to a toss-up between AI, Pierce, Nash, Ray Allen, Bosh, maybe Melo and probably a few others.
Jester Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 7:30 pm
Hell - Jordan played till 2003,
Reggie Miller till 2005
Malone till 2004
Olajuwon till 2002
The admiral till 2003
Pippin till 2004
The list is a joke - how do you make an all decade team when some of the ALL TIME greats played half of the decade as well. Are you saying Kobe, Duncan, Shaq were the best players throughout the entire decade? I don’t agree with that.
Jester Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 7:32 pm
Grant Hill? Chris Webber? Ray Allen? Mourning? Hardaway?
Markus Wagner Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 7:37 pm
Just because it was said so often and it is so wrong:
Iverson did NOT take a bad Sixers team to the finals in 01. In fact, the 01 Sixers team was one of the best DEFENSIVE team of all time, even with Iverson who never was more than an average defender at best (if you take into account that he defended the PGs which led to having Eric Snow defend the SGs of the other team). This team was really good back than and it allowed Iverson to play his one-on-one basketball on offense because they did not have to score that much to win games. Later, when Iverson got better offensive players it just never worked. It couldn’t because Iverson just never was a great player. He was great in this system, maybe the best player you could find but that’s basically it. Shaq should have won the MVP in 01 by the way, he was in his prime and clearly, the greatest player in the league.
That said, I’d take out Iverson from that list (he is 11 in my opinion) and add Kidd. Wade and LeBron have to go down, they just played 60% of the decade which one has to take into account. Shaq is by far the best player in the first half of the decade but he hardly makes the top10 in the second half, so he cannot be at 1. Duncan at 1 is fine, I would have Kobe at 2 and then Shaq. Nowitzki has to be in the list just because he has been great for all of the decade.
Steve Watkins Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 7:42 pm
Not a bad list, except there are two guys who I believe belong in the list; Jason Kidd and Chauncey Billups. I would replace Allen Iverson and Dirk Nowitski. Ivesron for the same reasons you explained. Nowitski because he does not get it done under playoff pressure. The moves and shots that work great for him during the regular season do not work under playoff pressure and fatique. People compare him to Larry Bird but Bird was much tougher inside.
I like Duncan and Shaq 1 and 2. Shaq at his best was better than Duncan at his best. But Duncan worked harder and was definately more consistent - I think more professional.
Roland Lazenby Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 8:33 pm
Don’t disagree with any of the comments per se. Broke my heart not to include Kidd or Billups.
I set two criteria. Number one has to be playing a supreme role in the winning of a championship (I obviously fudged here a bit with Duncan; what we’re really talking about is the post-Jordan decade, and I don’t count MJ as a Wizard, sorry).
Number two criteria was the League MVP, because that’s the endorsement of the entire sport.
Obviously I hedged with LJ a bit on these criteria, so shame on me perhaps. Kidd and Billups would round out the roster, if it was a roster. But I kept it to 10 because that’s sort of a max rotation.
For the most part, time has shown it to be a big boys’ game, so if there was a prejudice, it was there.
jake Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 9:19 pm
Duncan #1 finally somebody with brains
Shaq #2 agreed
Kobe #3 I hate him but ok
Lebron #4 yes he is amazing, nobody is or was better at his age(chamberlain maybe) if he played the whole decade it would be tough to keep off top spot. You can not blame no title on this guy or your high.
Nash #5 I went with the guy that makes his whole team better and won 2 MVP’s in a row. No championships will not keep this guy out of hall of fame.
Wade #6 Great when healthy and studded out to win Miami a championship.
Dirk diggler #7 great scorer rebounder and competitor.
Garnett #8 would be higher if he won more in minni
Pierce #9 great with a bad celtics team, out plated kobe when it counted
Kidd #10 to good a team player to be left of the list
as you can see I thought the original was well done. I love debates like this
jake Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 9:23 pm
Hey Jester they are talking about this decade? You think the 3 crappy seasons Jordan played this decade should get him a spot. Crazy! Nobody you mentioned should even be in this discussion.
Jamba Jew Said,
December 15, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
my all-century team:
10. Cherokee Parks (self-explanantory)
9. Scot Pollard (the greatest…)
8. Sasha Pavlovic (come one!)
7. Mario Kasun ( )
6. Peja Stojakovic (the best dunker EVER)
5. Erik Piatkowski (the white MJ)
4. Darko Milicic (Shaq on PCP)
3. Jayson Williams (anyone who kills his driver deserves some pub)
2. Jason Collins
1. Jarron Collins
jbean Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 11:20 am
To be honest, this list or at least the order is pretty disgusting. Though Tim Duncan is a great player he edges out Lebron as the most over rated payer of all time. Please won’t people remember his disgraceful presence on the U.S. National Team. How when the refs did not cater to his ability, all those uh.hem blocks by hitting the opposing players on the arms were actually called fouls, and how he could not adjust. Pop and that system has given duncan his place in history. Great yes, but cmon, has San Antonio ever not been stacked with talent, ever? And shaq, yes dominant and I loved him, but when the coach can not afford to keep you on the floor for the last 2 minutes of every important game and the other players and in particular the other one on this list hit all of the huge shots during his career, the claim to be the greatest of a decade dwindles.
Notable miss-Jason Kidd lets be honest, he should be like 3rd or 4th with what he has accomplished in his prime yet he is not even on the list. Really, Dirk, Lebron, nash, iverson, have accomplished more, i dont think so. At least the other players can hang their hat on a championship.
And in conclusion, it is really just ignorant to not consider Kobe the best. People idiotically claim he was selfish yet he completely sacrificed his game because the team was built to utilize shaq’s abilities. He could have averaged 35+ every season easily. You see it this season when Pau and bynum were not healthy. When the team came back healthy he scrolled his game back for the betterment of the team. It amazes me how no one ever notices that. He could have had all of the scoring records, all of them. But he chose championships instead because he is a natural born winner, not a natural born scorer like the press seems to insist. He has as many championships on this list as anyone else, and we all know when its all rapped up he will have more than anyone else, probably by several. And if you want to give other players credit for carrying bad teams, how about a season with almost fifty wins playing with other starters that cant even play in the league or shouldn’t be playing in the league. smoosh, kwame, sasha, Mihm, Cook, all terrible players and all head cases but were all part of the main rotation. I still think that was kobe’s best year. Also all those finals mvp’s that Shaq won people forget that Kobe dominated the better western conferance teams like the spurs and kings yet the teams they met in the finals from the east, sixers and nets did not even floor a true center and were picked to be dominated in the series which they were. Finally the GM’s and apposing players have long rated Kobe as the game’s best player, and now are rating him as having the highest basketball IQ. In my opinion a case can be made that Kobe is one of if not the most underrated player in history. Keep battling through the hatred Kobe, it will be what defines you, it will be what allows you to stand the test of time.
noah Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 1:00 pm
jbean– uh, so, Kobe’s dad, your evaluation of your son is maybe a little biased.
Mark Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 1:39 pm
NO JASON KIDD?? Can’t believe Paul Pierce and AI are on here before Jason!
Renan Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 3:17 pm
KG is munber 4
his the best power foward of the decade
Nash is number 5
Lebron sould be number 6
7 - dirk
8 - kidd
9 - AI
10. PP - he killed kobe’s dreams
11. wallace
12. wade
injured reserved : Billups - Ray Allen
Oriol Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 3:22 pm
Jason Collins should be in the top-10
Johann Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 4:39 pm
@ Jester - Dude, Grant Hill - are you kidding me??? he only started to play a full season, not even (67 games) in 06-07.
The list is pretty on point except for not including jkidd who was the best point guard for most of the decade.
I don’t understand how all these people are hating on Shaq. He is the most Dominant player EVER!!! You people might need to go on YouTube and watch some highlights. I thinks fans are blurring the present with. the past. Kobe, LeBron & Wade - those guys are all current. Dominant - yes, but their first year was 03-04 so it is hard to rate them.
Chad Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 4:56 pm
I agree with J. Bean. He isn’t underrated, there are just people who are overrated. Kobe will get this year’s ring and end all arguments. Lebron i’m afraid will not win a ring for a while, not with those rejects on Cleveland.
He’s a great player but should be 5 or lower. As for Kidd, he should definitely be on the list as the TOP point guard.
Vince is a quitter and from a talent standpoint could have been better than Kobe or Jordan, but vince does not work hard and thats why he will never finish first. Wade also has some quit in him, we’ll see as his career continues. Really only Kobe and Duncan have been great for the ten years and Garnett for 9. Those are the top 3. Then Shaq at 4. Kidd and Dirk follow, then T-Mac and Nash because Mac was good for most of the beginning all the way until 2 years ago and Nash above average in Dallas but flourished in the Suns system. Lebron could fit anywhere from 6-8, his decade is the next one.
Chad Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 4:57 pm
A.I and Pierce at 9 and 10
Brett Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 5:01 pm
umm … in what context has Duncan kept his mouth shut? I suppose he maintains discipline off the court, but during games, he runs his mouth to the refs more than almost all others.
Davor Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
I see a lot of comments against Shaq as the Nº2 in this ranking, but in the first ¿four? ¿five? seasons of the decade he was an unbelievable force of nature into the key. I never saw something like that, such a dominant center in the league. And in my opinion he is not the Nº1 only because Duncan is (and was) a flawless player, with perfect skills, tactical knowledges and basketball IQ.
Davor Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 6:39 pm
In my opinion is:
1 Duncan
2 Shaq
3 Kobe
4 KG
5 Jason Kidd
6 Steve Nash
7 Chauncey Billups
8 Dirk Nowtitzky
9 LB James
10 Chris Webber
Matt Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 7:10 pm
I agree with this list completely. Honorable mention should definitely be Tracy McGrady, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Chris Webber, Ray Allen.
Matt Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 7:11 pm
PAU GASOL is another honorable mention.
Matt Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 7:14 pm
Vince Carter another honorable mention.
Kaveh Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 9:56 pm
I can’t believe that Duncan was number 1 on the list AHEAD of Kobe and Shaq.
Kobe should be self-explanatory, but let us do it anyway. The guy is not only DOMINANT every single year of the decade, but his accomplishments are absolutely uncanny. Duncan has 3 rings this decade with 3 finals appearances. Very good and efficient, just what you might expect. Even if we include the strike shortened 99 season, which was not in the decade, he has 4 ring in 4 appearances. Shaq has 4 rings with 5 appearances, a tad better than the big fundamental. Kobe on the other hand has 4 rings with 6 finals appearances. Just think about that, he has been in the NBA finals 60% of this decade, lol. That is INSANE. He has won a championship in 40% of this decade, lol. CRAZY. Not to mention that he brought 2 teams from nothing to championships. The original 3-peet, although they had atleast some talent. But the second ring he brought the team from ROCK BOTTOM to win it all again. How many players can you say have done that? Not just 1 dominant team like Duncan or Jordan or Magic, but 2 times from nothing to championship!
Not to mention that on pure talent, Kobe is the best we have ever seen. His skill level is unmatched. His scoring explosiveness was seen on that fateful day when he provided the best scoring performance in NBA history. Sure Wilt did score 100 points 1 time, and Kobe’s 81 points is the second highest mark in history. However, Kobe’s 81 points was far superior to Wilt’s 100 points. Why? Wilt shot the ball like 75 times that game, and they all came from 5 feet to the rim. Kobe’s 81 points came off of an astounding 45 attempts, and his diverse array of shots was simply breathtaking. We are talking about drives to the hole, post up plays, left hand, right hand, off the dribble, spot up shots, playing inside the flow of the offense, etc. His 81 points were not all layups, they were all skillful and simply insane.
Shaq definitely gets the #2 spot. Simply put, there has never been someone as dominant as Shaq. Relatively speaking Wilt was more dominant, but in absolute terms it is not even close. It is not the fact that he was so big, because he is even bigger today. It was his athletic ability while being that big. He could run, jump and move with the best of them. I remember his body fat was like 8%, at 300lbs!
Simply dominant.
Duncan does get the 3rd spot simply due to his skill and determination.
Obed Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 10:19 pm
I don’t understand all the Dirk haters on this feed…crumbles under playoff pressure? He also reached the Finals, which Nash never did. His playoff averages are on the levels of everyone on this list. Pierce, and KG had one of Lazenby’s top 10 on their squad when they won theirs, and as dominant as Shaq was, he had Kobe and Wade on those championship teams. the next best player on the mavs is Jason Terry, barely an all-star, kidd was way past his prime when he joined. Give the man some credit people. I understand he’s not a banger but he has been his own brand of superstar this decade.
BBALL FAN Said,
December 16, 2009 @ 11:09 pm
KG shouldnt be lower than Nash. i mean come on! what has he REALLY done? He’s lost in the first round, how many times? Made one western confernce finals, and a NBA finals with a staked team. He’s a good player but Nash, in my opinion, has done alot more with every team he has played for. Thats jus my opinion tho
Airdugo Said,
December 17, 2009 @ 1:10 am
2 game winners in a week! I think you better check your list Santa. Timmy D’s only banking his way through the close of the decade with a near 500 record. He’s truly a great and a top 15 in my book but Kobe has been the brightest star in the decade. Shaq is a ring chaser and his age has shown. Please note that he was very much apart of the 15 win Miami team before he deserted them for greener grass only to make The Suns a far worse team than the previous year. Cleveland has dropped in their success since last season without Shaq. Please remember:
81pts 2nd all time
The 40 point streaks
The 50 point streaks
The 60 in the Garden
Most consecutive 3’s without a miss
Most 3’s in a game
35.4 pt average (Highest since MJ)
Kobe’s personal life cost him MVP honors on a couple occasions.
Calvin Said,
December 17, 2009 @ 4:47 am
This is like de All-Star Selection, there is someone missing….
I agree the top 3 duncan-shaq-kobe
Yeah, the spurs is a boring team (so bore to see) but since duncan came to the league is a title contender every year.
Shaq was only in his prime half of the decade.
And kobe….. well probably the 2st greatest of all time (we’ll have to see what lebron will do in the future) (First= MJ)
I miss Jason Kidd (he sure made a impact on the league)
I’m sure that if Pierce didnt win a championship he will not be on the list (sure he is a GREAT player - i remember the combo Pierce-Walker)
As i said first, it’s like the all-star someone is missing always
Chad Said,
December 17, 2009 @ 1:35 pm
Kobe is the best, he proves it time and time again
christos Said,
December 18, 2009 @ 1:18 am
1. Kobe (mvp candidate from 2000-2009, 4 rings + 6 finals, scoring titles, etc)
2. Duncan (same as kobe but I think most forgot his 1st ring was in the 90s, so he loses by 1 ring)
3. Shaq (almost like kobe, but has been non-factor since last ring which was 06)
4. KG (despite only 1 ring, has consistently been one of the top 3 big men from 2000-2009)
5. J.Kidd (the pg of this time frame, stats to back it up. Would have been 4 if not for decline last 2 seasons)
6. D-Wade (most accomplished of his class)
7. Chauncey Billups (not as big star-wise, but 6 straight conference finals + a ring puts him here)
8. S.Nash (pioneer of the next decade’s style, 2 MVPs)
9. LeBron (not so accomplished, but let’s face it, half the decade has been dedicated to him)
10a. VC (decade long star, better career than t-mac)
10b. T-Mac (see VC)
Steve Watkins Said,
December 18, 2009 @ 11:45 am
jbean is a little too high on Kobe. There is no question Kobe could score 35 a game if he really wanted to. I don’t really keep track of this crap but it seems like towards the end of the season when the playoff picture is already decided, Kobe increases his scoring so that he can be the league scoring leader. He defers more during the playoffs because that is what it takes to win but he is still the number one go-to guy. It always amazes me when a guy scores most of the points, everyone else is perceived as wothless non-contributors. The fact is that if Kobe wasn’t taking those shots, other players would be taking and making them. Kobe could defer even more than he does in the playoffs and the Lakers would still win big and I believe would probably be better. I think the Lakers showed signs of inconsistency in the playoffs last year, for example, and if other players stepped up more, they would be better balanced and more consistent. Ariza for example could have easily scored more points than he did. Putting Kobe above Duncan based on ppg is flawed because ppg is an overrated stat. That is not the case for rebounds and Duncan has been a great rebounder for the decade.
By the way, his teammate Dejaun Blair leads the league in rebounds per 48 minutes. That is not just rookies, that is the entire league, including Dwight Howard. This Blair is an amazing ball player and I saw him dominate Kevin Garnett, just like he dominated Thabeet last year in college, even though Thabeet got all the hype. I don’t understand why the Spurs don’t give Blair more minutes.
roland is a clown Said,
December 18, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
who told you lebrons mom was drug and alcohol addicted?
magaling.com Said,
December 19, 2009 @ 3:23 am
here’s my list:
1. Shaq-the most dominant big man in the decade. Can score, rebound, blocks, intimidate, a good team player, a show player. 4 rings, 3 finals mvp, 1 season mvp…
2. Kobe-being sidekick to shaq made him my number 2. 4 rings, 1 season and finals mvp, a great leader in ‘08 USA Redeem team…
3. Duncan-is anybody is as humble as timmy in this list? not that exciting to watch batch consistent enough to win 4 rings, 3 finals mvp, 2 season mvp, a great teammate..
4. Garnett-if not a lack of supporting cast in timberwolves who would know what could KG can do more? a passionate player, 1-time mvp, 1 ring, an all-around player…
5. LeBron-what else can you ask if a player has a great power, a speed like a point guard, a strength like a power forward, can dunk like MJ and shaq, always flirting with triple doubles, plays good D and do I need to say that he’s only 24? this 6′8 behemoth will rule the next decade. what is missing? a supporting cast that will complement “The King”…
6. Kidd-he literally made an awful team to a championship contender. Always flirting with triple double, kidd made the New Jersey Nets a team to beat in his tenure with the nets…
7. Iverson-do we need to quetion his desire and will to win? yes he’s only 6′0 but aside from not accepting a role of being a supporting player can you see a negative side of “The Answer”?
8. Nash-people start noticing nash when he returned to phoenix that’s why he’s this low. forget about his defense because his offensive skills made the basketball world entertaining.
9. Nowitzki-you could criticize me for making dirk this low. but he is definitely one of the best players that create mismatches on the floor. another thing why I put him this low because he do have a great supporting cast yet he only made the finals once and never won a championship…
10. Tmac-I could easily put him higher if he won atleast one playoff-series. but what can you ask more with tmac if his orlando team compose of drew gooden,darrel armstrong, pat garrity and gordan giricek and his rockets team compose of a young and injury prone (like him) yao ming,rafer alston,juwan howard,shane battier and a young luis scola…
D Said,
December 19, 2009 @ 4:16 pm
Lazenby this list is shit…you are too…D.Wade aint even been in the league a decade….no way and all of yall including LeBron need to consider that also..D.Wade has won a ring..bron hasn’t done anything..stop putting him on a list with legends….Kobe by far is the best player of this decade please refer to the espn article written by marc stein it’s far more reputable.
John Said,
December 21, 2009 @ 12:48 pm
I’d put Dirk up higher than Wade and Garnett. He’s definitely been KG since about 05′ and he’s been better than Wade this entire time.
Dirk is probably the most underappreciated athlete in sports history. Just imagine if he were a big black guy from the ghetto.
DJMJRULES Said,
December 22, 2009 @ 12:36 am
Lebron went 35-9-7 last playoffs. He is 29-8-7 in his career in 60 postseason games. And he is 24.
NBAGuru Said,
December 22, 2009 @ 3:26 am
This the best list of this kind I have seen on the internets. Got all of the big stuff right (1-2 in the right order, including Pierce, Dirk and media pariah AI on the list). Just a few quibbles:
-KG should be 3rd on this list. Both he and Kobe have their flaws, but on balance KG played better team basketball than Kobe. Kobe is too often rewarded for the quality of his teammates (at least 6 out of the 10 seasons he was probably on the most talented team in the league).
-Having Nash over Kidd is a mistake. Somewhat forgivable because 99% of the media makes the same one.
-Wade is my favorite player, but he’s a tad overrated here. 06 Finals were historic, but you can’t ignore that he made it past 1st round only 3 times this decade.
NBAGuru Said,
December 22, 2009 @ 3:44 am
Just read the comments…a couple more points:
“I set two criteria. Number one has to be playing a supreme role in the winning of a championship (I obviously fudged here a bit with Duncan; what we’re really talking about is the post-Jordan decade, and I don’t count MJ as a Wizard, sorry).
Number two criteria was the League MVP, because that’s the endorsement of the entire sport.”
Though the criteria sounds nice and objective on paper, I must say those factors are severely flawed if we are trying to judge players as individuals. Playoff success should, of course, be the main decider of who gets on the list, and players who are on teams that consistently go deep in the playoffs should be rewarded. But winning a championship depends entirely on the strength of a TEAM, and should not give too much weight, positive or negative, to individual players. And league MVP is exclusively a media award. Given the quality of most sports “journalists” (basically, the guy versions of the reporters of E!), I wouldn’t trust them to tell me what time it was, let alone tell me who was the best player in any given NBA season.
And to the guy who mentioned Ben Wallace - you could make a great argument for Big Ben to make it onto the list. He was the real MVP and heart and soul of the great Pistons teams. Because everybody underrates defense, you’d never in a million years see him on one of these lists though.
ray Said,
December 31, 2009 @ 5:07 pm
Lebron at 4 is right. When he gets his rings he passes the others. And you will all have nothing left to point to keep him out of his rightful place in history.
He is the greatest player of his generation. Only Lebron has a career playoff average of 29-8-7 in the history of the planet. He is a bigger, stronger Michael. A far more athletic Magic. He is a much better scorer than Magic, a much better passer than Michael, and a much better rebounder than both of him.
We have never seen the likes of him.
Had Kobe come to a team like the 17-win Cavs straight from high school, and never paired with a Shaq in his prime, he would at best have one ring–last year’s.
All of you who can’t deal with the transcendent talent that is LeBron are merely whistling past the graveyard. Only Michael will survive as a reasonable comparison to LeBron at the end of this next decade (barring significant injury or curtailing world events, ala 9/11.)
So go ahead. Keep on whistling. Time is on LeBron’s side.